2017 College Football Hot Seats

[volfannbama]

Ok its all CBJ fault all the injuries are on him -- happy now ? iirc never mentioned Hurd in the Vandy loss

Jones has already said he didnt dp as many hitting drills in practice before the season in hopes to keep players healthy. So yeah I say he played a role.

Also, I didnt ask you if Jones was responsible for the injuries. I asked you if you honestly believe.we lost to Vandy due to injuries?

 

[volfannbama]

Tennessee should be a > 7 win team every year except for maybe 1 outlier an decade. So my requirement is for CBJ to have at least 8 wins next year. I believe with a new AD that CBJ will be safe the 1st year if he gets to 7 wins next year unless attendance falls off and the fans cries are really loud.

Sweet, we are now Kentucky, withour good basketball. I dont know about you but im pumped for all these upcoming 7 win seasons.

 

[volfan102455]

Same posters in a different thread with the same comments posted for the 1257th time!

You will never be happy. Even if coach "insert name" came here, he would not be the one, first loss you don't believe he should lose - fire "insert name" here. It is what you do. It is who you are!

Some of you want a certain person as an AD because you think said person thinks like you and will do as you say. When said AD doesn't it will be "fire AD", "New AD is not better than current AD".

 

[volfan102455]

This is exactly what will happen.
QD will have flashes but ultimately never be able to escape the rush. JD comes in late seaon and lights up teams. Leaving fans with pitch forks and torches.

I see bashing players now? Team 121 doomed even before they take the field.

The only fans with forks and torches are the few of you on here who are obsessed by your hate towards a certain coach.

 

[volfan102455]

Jones has already said he didnt dp as many hitting drills in practice before the season in hopes to keep players healthy. So yeah I say he played a role.

Also, I didnt ask you if Jones was responsible for the injuries. I asked you if you honestly believe.we lost to Vandy due to injuries?

IMO, we lost to Vandy because there was absolutely no adjustments made defensively in the second half. The injuries may have played a part in being able to adjust - but there were no adjustments by the defense.

 

[BeecherVol]

IMO, we lost to Vandy because there was absolutely no adjustments made defensively in the second half. The injuries may have played a part in being able to adjust - but there were no adjustments by the defense.

Throw in a fumble, a missed FG, and scoring 3 points in the second half and you have it covered. It was a concerted effort.

 

[Iam4utalways]

So next year is our year? Sweet, Ive heard that for so many years, im glad it's finally here.

Glad you dropped the corny phrases.

There were many saying that 2017 was "the year" back in August were you one if them?

The way Football works any year could be "the year".

To each their own.

Thanks for reminding me.

Had I known it bothered you so much, I never would have stopped.

Beat the corn biscuits!

Take their lunch money!

Jump higher Vols.

 

[volfannbama]

Same posters in a different thread with the same comments posted for the 1257th time!

You will never be happy. Even if coach "insert name" came here, he would not be the one, first loss you don't believe he should lose - fire "insert name" here. It is what you do. It is who you are!

Some of you want a certain person as an AD because you think said person thinks like you and will do as you say. When said AD doesn't it will be "fire AD", "New AD is not better than current AD".

If you are referring to me, you are wrong. But much like every other post like this, it looks to me as just another attempt to make anyone that doesnt agree with you irrational and stupid.

I have said all these things plenty of time...outside of Art Briles and Bobby Petrino, I dont give a crap who the coach is as long as they win and run a relatively clean program.
I dont need NC every year to be happy. I was ecstatic about a possible trip to the Sugar Bowl and the wife and I had already planned out how we could go to the bowl with our trip to Disney for the marathon. Was prepared to spend whatever it took for the whole family to go. So yeah, I would have been more than happy with 9-3 and Sugar Bowl.
I supported CBJ until the Vandy game, willing to give him a pass on previous years. However, looking back on his four years, I think he has underachieved every single year he has been here. This pr has become a disaster, he constantly says things that EVERYONE knows is not true. He has done alot of things good, but has struggled in alot of different areas, causing the team to constantly underachieve.
Im not sure firing him this year would be the right thing to do, but I believe we are just delaying the inevitable. He does alot of good, but he is simply not a good football coach.

You may disagree with me, but it would be hard to admit that my thinking is absolutely irrational and there is no validity to it.

 

[volfannbama]

There were many saying that 2017 was "the year" back in August were you one if them?

The way Football works any year could be "the year".

To each their own.

Thanks for reminding me.

Had I known it bothered you so much, I never would have stopped.

Beat the corn biscuits!

Take their lunch money!

Jump higher Vols.

No, never said 2017 was our year. I dont forecast the future too much. I thought we would win the east this year, that's about it.

And it doesn't bother me at all, just makes you look corny.

 

[zeppelin128]

Goodness gracious.

You got to be kidding me.

Talking about setting the bar low.

Anything less than an SEC east title should get him fired.

He shouldn't get a pass because of the failure that was this season. I remember hearing this past off-season from many people that we should be better in 2017. Now you're saying 7-5 is acceptable. That's a joke. Anything less than 9-3 and an east division title and he should be fired.

7-5 is not my standard, I think that is what it will take to fire him.

 

[BeecherVol]

The way Football works any year could be "the year".

Not really.

 

[orangemadam]

won't matter. Next years chemistry along with the changes in coaching and a new QB coach will take us to 9-3 and Butch gets his raise and extension.

 

[volfannbama]

won't matter. Next years chemistry along with the changes in coaching and a new QB coach will take us to 9-3 and Butch gets his raise and extension.

We are going to get to 9-3 next year? Sweet.

What, didnt we say that about this year?

 

[Iam4utalways]

No, never said 2017 was our year. I dont forecast the future too much. I thought we would win the east this year, that's about it.

And it doesn't bother me at all, just makes you look corny.

I sure did. But I said the same about 2015, I still have hard feelings about how that turned out.

Not even a little.

Serious question. What does CBJ keep saying that everybody knows isn't true?

 

[Iam4utalways]

Not really.

Yes really. Vandy beating us proves on any given day anything can happen and often does.

Here lately it happens to us and not for us.

Beat Nebraska.

 

[Iam4utalways]

won't matter. Next years chemistry along with the changes in coaching and a new QB coach will take us to 9-3 and Butch gets his raise and extension.

Who are the three losses to?

 

[BeecherVol]

Yes really. Vandy beating us proves on any given day anything can happen and often does.

Here lately it happens to us and not for us.

Beat Nebraska.

Yeah not really.

"The year" (at least from the conference standpoint) had already been decided before that. Vandy was just piling on at that point.

"The year" is not happening under these conditions for a reason.

 

[utmba93]

This was easily the easiest year to win the SEC East that we've witnessed in a long time.

Truth is... the East has been a lot easier throughout the past decade or so than it was during the CPF years when we had to beat national championship contenders to win it. Nowadays, just about any ole top 10 team would do. That sounds like a lot now, but top 10 was once a norm (before Hamilton became AD).

 

[volfannbama]

I sure did. But I said the same about 2015, I still have hard feelings about how that turned out.

Not even a little.

Serious question. What does CBJ keep saying that everybody knows isn't true?

Nope not even a little. Nothing said on the internet by anonymous people affects me, not even a little.

Things CBJ says that everyone knows are not true:
- Hurd injury
- Kongbo FIFA game
- Dont have a depth chart
- Team never talked about winning the east


I (or others) can add plenty more when I have time to think about it.

 

[BeecherVol]

This was easily the easiest year to win the SEC East that we've witnessed in a long time.

Truth is... the East has been a lot easier throughout the past decade or so than it was during the CPF years when we had to beat national championship contenders to win it. Nowadays, just about any ole top 10 team would do. That sounds like a lot now, but top 10 was once a norm (before Hamilton became AD).

Yep
Once Spurrier left and Urban got indigestion the east fell off pretty hard.

 

[sjt18]

Jones has earned his way to a hot seat. You can spend all of the time in the weeds you want trying to make excuses. But the simple fact is that while he's built a better roster and had relatively good discipline off the field.... he's underperformed the talent on the roster in each of his 4 years. Some of us saw it early when he lost to Vandy then a horrible UF team the next year. Some needed the 3 losses last year to start questioning his coaching ability. Some even held out to this year when he clearly underperformed the talent he had even in some early wins and before the injuries.

Some... are clinging to the delusion that he might still be a good coach.

The only way he becomes what UT needs is if he changes himself and things within the program in a major way.... and so far there's no indication he's going to do that.

 

[Coachmike17]

BROWN NOSING APOLOGIST!

If players were not playing out of position there would be fewer injuries.

Hurd wanted a fullback ... there is not one on the roster. He got frustrated and was wrong, too.

Jones keeps getting credit for recruiting but can't find a starting LB.



He recruits with stars in his eyes instead of needs in his mind.

He is an outstanding MAC, Sunbelt, etc coach. He is NOT an SEC caliber coach.

OK. Since you are obviously an authority on caliber of coaching, give me some replacement names who would drop everything to come to Tennessee and try to please you with their coaching skills. Be realistic (no Gruden bs). If you can't then get off his back and start supporting your team instead of trying to tear it down.

 

[sjt18]

OK. Since you are obviously an authority on caliber of coaching, give me some replacement names who would drop everything to come to Tennessee and try to please you with their coaching skills. Be realistic (no Gruden bs). If you can't then get off his back and start supporting your team instead of trying to tear it down.

What does naming a replacement have to do with recognizing that Jones is in over his head?

I've seen this line of "reasoning" used repeatedly by Jones' apologists. It is non sequitur.

I support the team completely. And right now... that requires me to question Jones.

PS- you don't have to be an authority on infectious diseases to know that a medicine isn't working. The simple fact is that UT has lost games in each of Jones' 4 seasons that they shouldn't have lost. Being very kind, they've won only ONE game that they should have lost.... and personally I would dispute whether USCe's roster was actually better overall than UT's.

 

[sjt18]

There comes a time when "supporting the team" and excusing the failures of a coach are mutually exclusive.

 

[Iam4utalways]

Yeah not really.

"The year" (at least from the conference standpoint) had already been decided before that. Vandy was just piling on at that point.

"The year" is not happening under these conditions for a reason.

How in the world by me saying Vandy beating us proving that anything can happen did you come up with the response that the east had already been decided?

Are you trying not to understand?

Vandy beating us is an example that a bad team can still beat a better team on any given day.

So when a season starts, typically there are only 4-5 games that are a legit toss ups that if we play good and they play good we can win the other 7-8 games we have to have a bad game while they have their best game for us to lose. Any given year that can happen. Sure it's not every year that we cycle up to a true contender, but as we build the program back up our down years should be 9-3, not worried can we make a bowl.

Florida, Ga and bama will always be there as a toss up that we need to have a good game or a loss will happen( I don't expect to beat them while having a bad game, I do expect us to play well and win). With those three even a good team having a good game can still lose because they typically have good teams too. Throw in our other west opponent and our usual P5 OOC game, then you can add 2 more games as a toss up. So that is a potential of 5 games a year that if we sleep walk we can expect to loose or if we just stink it up we can expect to lose. At the same time if we play a solid game limiting our mistakes we have just as good of chance to win whether they have a good game or a bad game.

Teams don't sleep walk against Tn, it means too much to them to beat us, often times the Vols play like they are entitled to the win and have no sense of urgency, making a gimme game close and at times(Vandy) costing us the win.

If you want to bring up the Dooley days to back your side, well you got me. With our worst coach in the worst stretch those year were doomed. I will say had Dooley left the defense alone his last year and the defense had a repeat performance from the 2011 season in 2012 would have been much better. Score 48 vs Ga and lose, nobody predicted that.

So by throwing in the Dooley days I will agree with you, "almost" any year can be "the year", and not any year.

Better?