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The Breakerboy said:
Butch interview-"Champions at Life"

Saban interview clip- "Losing is NEVER acceptable". Goes off and basically ends the interview.

Both teams play with complete different mindsets too. Smh
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Why on earth do we keep piling on because of a quote that was 110% appropriate to run our own guy further in the ground?

Don't we owe it to the program we supposedly support to watch or read the freaking context of quote before we burn the guy at the stake for it?

Damn almighty why don't we find real things to complain about. It's almost as if our own fans enjoyed hearing the Vandy announcer classlessly use the same punch line from the quote.

Smdh at so called fans. Let's find something really true to complain about at least.
 
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Butch will be here next year. You guys are wasting too much time talking about who you would rather have.
 
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i wonder how freeze, sumlin, beliema, mullen, etc are talked about by their fans and media. because jones has had as much or more success this year and is getting sodomized.
 
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unioncityvol said:
i wonder how freeze, sumlin, beliema, mullen, etc are talked about by their fans and media. because jones has had as much or more success this year and is getting sodomized.
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Mullen and Freeze are under pressure but their respective universities have far lower expectations than ours.

Arkansas fans are behaving much like us in many of them what Brett gone.

Texas A&M fans are almost unified in wanting Kevin fired.
 
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BruinVol said:
Why on earth do we keep piling on because of a quote that was 110% appropriate to run our own guy further in the ground?

Don't we owe it to the program we supposedly support to watch or read the freaking context of quote before we burn the guy at the stake for it?

Damn almighty why don't we find real things to complain about. It's almost as if our own fans enjoyed hearing the Vandy announcer classlessly use the same punch line from the quote.

Smdh at so called fans. Let's find something really true to complain about at least.
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Says the king of beating a dead horse. 🤔
 
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vol2002 said:
I think the Kentucky AD would be a good move. You have to think about it from the perspective of prospective coaching hires. They are looking at their bosses and saying can I respect them? Can they do what is necessary to help me be successful. Blackburn is still green. Hasn't run a power 5 program. Kentucky is a big time college athletic program.


It makes me think the powers that be are wanting to make big time coaching hires and don't want concerns about the ad to get in the way.
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I agreed that Barnhart will be a good hire, as well. However, if Blackburn is hired, whether he is green or not, he will not get in the way of big time hires that will be good for the athletic programs.
 
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Volnerd said:
Butch will be here next year. You guys are wasting too much time talking about who you would rather have.
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This is kinda what I'm thinking. It's doubtful he's going anywhere.

I guess maybe it's a good coping mechanism to talk about dreams of greener grass. But I don't see Butch backing down and giving up of his own choosing and leaving on such a sour note.

Many on here have talked a lot about and said he has a big ego and so on. So what makes you think he would give up when the talk and general consensus is that he hasn't met expectations?
 
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So to me we're kind of in this void area where our fanbase is depressed and angry and tired and fed up. But there's not really anything we can do about it.

Except maybe hope against hope that this year was an aberration and next year we excel. And that Butch somehow turns/grows into some powerhouse coach. Not saying that's what will happen. But I doubt Butch will be choosing to leave (despite what Hubbs us floating out there).

And so we're left with little options. If we have another terrible year next year the downward spiral may be too much to overcome and we'll probably end up in another multi-year rebuild.
 
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If I were Butch's boss and he told me he was being considered for a different coaching job, I'd hand him a box. I don't think he needs to be fired, but no way we give him a raise/extension, etc., in order to keep him.
 
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WarMachine said:
If I were Butch's boss and he told me he was being considered for a different coaching job, I'd hand him a box. I don't think he needs to be fired, but no way we give him a raise/extension, etc., in order to keep him.
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If he gets a raise/extension now, the fanbase may explode.
 
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The fact that Hubbs and Co. are hinting that Butch is unhappy/shopping around makes you think he's not all in. I can't imagine why they would say that if it isn't true.
 
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JCP201 said:
The fact that Hubbs and Co. are hinting that Butch is unhappy/shopping around makes you think he's not all in. I can't imagine why they would say that if it isn't true.
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I think the best option would be for him to leave for WVU or somewhere like that.
 
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volssam said:
So to me we're kind of in this void area where our fanbase is depressed and angry and tired and fed up. But there's not really anything we can do about it.

Except maybe hope against hope that this year was an aberration and next year we excel. And that Butch somehow turns/grows into some powerhouse coach. Not saying that's what will happen. But I doubt Butch will be choosing to leave (despite what Hubbs us floating out there).

And so we're left with little options. If we have another terrible year next year the downward spiral may be too much to overcome and we'll probably end up in another multi-year rebuild.
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This is where I am. I like Butch, and have supported him. He's shown he can adapt to an extent, let's hope he can adapt more this off season, and win the East next year.
It all starts with a change in S&C program, and defensive assistant coaches, let Shoop hire who he wants and let him run the D.
I'm still on the fence about Debored. Man, he has been so bi-polar this year. Games like App St and Ohio (who is playing for a conference championship btw) were beyond frustrating, slow starts, etc.
Then you have games like the second half UF and VTech game, and our last 4. Not real sure what the problem is on O? Perhaps the whole Hurd thing was the problem?
 
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volssam said:
So to me we're kind of in this void area where our fanbase is depressed and angry and tired and fed up. But there's not really anything we can do about it.

Except maybe hope against hope that this year was an aberration and next year we excel. And that Butch somehow turns/grows into some powerhouse coach. Not saying that's what will happen. But I doubt Butch will be choosing to leave (despite what Hubbs us floating out there).

And so we're left with little options. If we have another terrible year next year the downward spiral may be too much to overcome and we'll probably end up in another multi-year rebuild.
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We can simply hope Butch returns to the coach he was the first 3 years. We can hope his team plays disciplined football and is prepared when the game starts. The first 3 years his team were excellent at that. 3 years is greater than 1.
 
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Saw someone mention Mullen the other day.

Not saying he wouldn't be a good coach here.

But if we make such snap final judgments on coaches because of bad losses , he lost to a Division 2 team this year, didn't he?
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
Mullen and Freeze are under pressure but their respective universities have for lower expectations than ours.

Arkansas fans are behaving much like us in many of them what Brett gone.

Texas A&M fans are almost unified in wanting Kevin fired.
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Arkansas fans aren't nearly as unhappy with Bret as we are with Butch. I haven't met a single one who wants Bret gone, and I haven't heard more than 1 or 2 on local radio say that. Almost unanimous that some assistants need to go but not at all that BB needs to go.
 
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JCP201 said:
McElwain to Oregon?

College football coaching carousel notes on Oregon, Jim McElwain, Tennessee, Ole Miss
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from the article:

TENNESSEE

Butch Jones will obviously enter 2017 feeling a great deal of pressure, and staff changes are expected in the coming weeks. That said, 247Sports has been told that neither of the team’s coordinators, neither OC Mike DeBord nor DC Bob Shoop, will be dismissed.

We have been told, however, that the 60-year-old DeBord is at least contemplating retirement. We’ve also been told to expect an overhaul of the team’s strength and conditioning department in the coming months.

Tennessee is also in the midst of an athletic director search, though many sources close to the school say Chattanooga’s David Blackburn — a former deputy AD at UT — should be the shoo-in to begin a sort of healing process for the beleaguered department.
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