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#6,853
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UTProf said:
Any time I see that or Lyle used I know to immediately dismiss the poster. It tells me they're too immature to have an adult conversation about the coach or the program. I also have no respect for anyone who dogs their own team and gives ammunition to our rivals and competitors and contributes to a false narrative about our coach, program, and team. Things aren't perfect. They need to be fixed but stuff like that only adds to the narrative and makes our problems worse.

It's the same thing when I hear pool boy or whatever other childish nicknames people use for other coaches. It drives me crazy that there's so much immaturity associated with sports fandom. I love the sport and I love talking football and the state of our program but the childishness that goes on is absurd. It's why I mostly stay in the recruiting forum where we act more like grownups.
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I get that you're a academic, but seriously? This is a GAME. In the grand scheme of my life it means almost nothing. I will not speak for anybody else, but this is a diversion, a chance to just be a foolish, over emotional kid again for a little while. I love the Vols, but if they lose all the rest of their games this season, it will not affect me in any real way. Sometimes it is is to forget that these are real people we are talking about, but they have chosen a profession that makes them entertainers. They seek and clamor for the spotlight...Is it immaturity? Yes it absolutely is. It is a GAME, it is a SHOW.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
What game aside from Kentucky has their offense looked good? I live here and trust me, their fans hate their offense.
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It hasn't.

Del Rio is the equivalent of Dobbs without the running threat and they have no playmakers on offense. Callaway is having a poor year.

Mac has put every game on his defense because he doesn't have an offense that is capable of winning games for them.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
What game aside from Kentucky has their offense looked good? I live here and trust me, their fans hate their offense.
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Not saying they are good. Saying they are efficient and do not make the major dumb plays that cost games like Dobbs has been doing. Mac relies on that D and has conservative game plans. The fans may hate it but their coach knows what will deliver the most W's.

I see aspects of their O that will be enough to win games if their D performs well. A 10 to 11 type win team. Not trash. As their passing O improves they will rely on home run TD's to get a lot of their scoring. That development is dependent on the O-line improving, which it is.
 
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UTProf said:
Any time I see that or Lyle used I know to immediately dismiss the poster. It tells me they're too immature to have an adult conversation about the coach or the program. I also have no respect for anyone who dogs their own team and gives ammunition to our rivals and competitors and contributes to a false narrative about our coach, program, and team. Things aren't perfect. They need to be fixed but stuff like that only adds to the narrative and makes our problems worse.

It's the same thing when I hear pool boy or whatever other childish nicknames people use for other coaches. It drives me crazy that there's so much immaturity associated with sports fandom. I love the sport and I love talking football and the state of our program but the childishness that goes on is absurd. It's why I mostly stay in the recruiting forum where we act more like grownups.
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I just called everyone a DODO Head and then I read this . LOL j/k
 
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NMVol said:
I am trying to get my head around what has been going on. Seems like the running game keying on Hurd was getting bogged down. It showed new life but for whatever reason, perhaps over-effort the turn-overs were to much to over come against A & M.

Kamara being out limited the options against USC and with Hurd being compromised, Muschamp keying on rendering Dobbs ineffective, the Vols just weren't able to adjust fast enough. The OC seems willing to throw the contested ball to JJ, but Dobbs response time, that is his quickness to some degree limits him as an option QB.

Jones did not let Hurd down if there was a promise to make him a feature running back. I am not sure how there was a work around and in the end through little fault of his own Hurd was suffering from having to spearhead the attack.

I guess that phase of the rebuild is over, and at this point there appear to be adequate back ups. DeBord played the hand he was dealt with the commitment to Hurd and the two edged sword of Dobbs intense focus. I am not sure Jones has played it wrong showing a commitment to Dobbs and Hurd. It's about culture and this kind of stability in the roster hierarchy clearly lets players know what to the work ethic required. Sure performance is part of it but Dobbs and Hurd have carried the team far. I'd rather see a run than a flash. Yeah Hurd is done, and teams are learning how to play Dobbs. Kelly looks competitive. The D still has some fiber but continues to need to gain experience.

The Vols' identity is evolving.
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Outstanding post, imo. :hi:
 
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chavisut said:
Predictable.
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Yup just like you've been saying..we'll probably win out over these awful team, most fans will be happy happy joy joy & be satisfied with "improvement" & the fact we rallied after the cancer of the team held us back.

Even though this team should have been competing for championships this season & we absolutely blew our best chance to go to Atlanta in a decade. In embarrassing fashion.
 
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butchna said:
Love GFW, but even he admits he's not tuned into the program anymore. Maybe an old source spread that rumor to him? Just sounds like more trash from our favorite barber.
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Negative

Current players, unfortunately. Not just Hurd either


Practice intensity always seemed to cause more headaches than solutions...........
 
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Go Fight Win said:
Negative

Current players, unfortunately. Not just Hurd either


Practice intensity always seemed to cause more headaches than solutions...........
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What kind of severity are we talking here? Missing some concussions when the player insists he's fine? Encouraging guys to play through head injuries? Something in between?
 
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Go Fight Win said:
Negative

Current players, unfortunately. Not just Hurd either


Practice intensity always seemed to cause more headaches than solutions...........
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Why are you trying to fan the flames of Butch hatred at this point? You are off the Butch train, so you want to do your part to hurry up the Fahr Butch agenda? Is that it?
 
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