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Catbone said:
Things are never as good or bad as they seem. But when you have your starting RB about to break the all time rushing record quit mid season, it's ignorant NOT to think something is very wrong.
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Literally nothing changed from last year when he had 1200 yards. It's all about effort, and apparently he decided to quit giving it when he didn't get his way.
 
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Dust10 said:
Literally nothing changed from last year when he had 1200 yards. It's all about effort, and apparently he decided to quit giving it when he didn't get his way.
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He didn't play horrible prior to Georgia right? (serious question) I really don't recall him being an issue.

That play where he fumbled coasting in. Butch chewed him out and rightfully so. The kid hasn't been the same since. I think his pride took a hit there.
 
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At least Barnett is having a huge season. Should break Reggie White's record and will almost certainly be our first non-special teams All American since Eric Berry.
 
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Undoubtedly one of the biggest factors in Hurd's decision will be colored by NFL considerations. At 6-foot-4, 240 pounds, Hurd has freakish physical traits but his NFL reviews are mixed. I talked with a few NFL personnel department guys about where Hurd's stock is now and what his move means for his NFL future.

"The guy ran for 1,200 yards in the SEC last year," said one NFL source. "He'll find work. He ain't tough but there's a ton of those at this level. If he can go 10-14 touches a game, minimum value he's a [round 5-7 pick]. With his size and testing numbers he's probably 3-4"

Another NFL source had doubts that the transfer and position change is the right decision for Hurd's future.

"That's a bad choice," he said. "He didn't fall that far (on NFL boards). He's always been that type of guy (with off-field question marks). More hype on him because he has unusual size. Too many good backs this year and he is behind all of them. He would be better served to return for another season."
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-Barton Simmons
 
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Dust10 said:
Literally nothing changed from last year when he had 1200 yards. It's all about effort, and apparently he decided to quit giving it when he didn't get his way.
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If you read what the insiders have said (and his own Uncle) you kind of figure when he fumbled during the GA game, he got "coached' and and showed his ass. Then during A&M he got shown up by the other backs, and he wanted to take his things and go home.

That is the way it seems like to me. If he didn't want to leave that impression, uncle needed to keep his mouth shut and he needed to just stay with the team.
 
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volatil said:
He didn't play horrible prior to Georgia right? (serious question) I really don't recall him being an issue.

That play where he fumbled coasting in. Butch chewed him out and rightfully so. The kid hasn't been the same since. I think his pride took a hit there.
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You'd be right that the stats were there the first 4 games. I just remember the whole offseason hearing about how he worked on his explosiveness and never seeing it materialize. I expected more, and I believe you're right the mental weakness revealed itself in the UGA game. If the rumors are true of him quitting and begging to come back after that game, I wish we'd have just let him go and had moved on sooner.
 
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JCP201 said:
If you read what the insiders have said (and his own Uncle) you kind of figure when he fumbled during the GA game, he got "coached' and and showed his ass. Then during A&M he got shown up by the other backs, and he wanted to take his things and go home.

That is the way it seems like to me. If he didn't want to leave that impression, uncle needed to keep his mouth shut and he needed to just stay with the team.
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And now we are supposed to believe that he wanted a scheme change and was promised it and didn't get it but now he's quitting not because of a scheme but he wants to play a totally new position while he's a couple hundred yards from being all time leading rusher.

Absurd.
 
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Aesius said:
At least Barnett is having a huge season. Should break Reggie White's record and will almost certainly be our first non-special teams All American since Eric Berry.
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Watch someone find a way to not make him an All American. Dude is the most complete DE but doesn't get the hype that a certain couple DE's get...
 
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theutvolunteers said:
My daughters NICU nurse went to Bama. 😖. Wife asks where'd you go to school? "Bama, Roll Tide".
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Was in the plane with an instructor the other day & I asked him if he followed college football much. He said "well my wife's family is from Cullman Alabama so roll tide".

Then says "I pull for Tennessee unless they play Alabama"...I was confused.
 
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Dust10 said:
You'd be right that the stats were there the first 4 games. I just remember the whole offseason hearing about how he worked on his explosiveness and never seeing it materialize. I expected more, and I believe you're right the mental weakness revealed itself in the UGA game. If the rumors are true of him quitting and begging to come back after that game, I wish we'd have just let him go and had moved on sooner.
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Yeah I agree. I never believed anything from 74. I thought that guy was trolling us. It's still hard to comprehend that he left mid season of his Jr year to switch positions.

Someone earlier had a great post and really put things into perspective. The poster suggested that when Butch arrived the roster was so decimated that he had to take on this type of player with an attitude. That never occurred to me until today.
 
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volatil said:
Yeah I agree. I never believed anything from 74. I thought that guy was trolling us. It's still hard to comprehend that he left mid season of his Jr year to switch positions.

Someone earlier had a great post and really put things into perspective. The poster suggested that when Butch arrived the roster was so decimated that he had to take on this type of player with an attitude. That never occurred to me until today.
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volatil said:
He didn't play horrible prior to Georgia right? (serious question) I really don't recall him being an issue.

That play where he fumbled coasting in. Butch chewed him out and rightfully so. The kid hasn't been the same since. I think his pride took a hit there.
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I do remember hearing last year Hurd would get miffed when Dobbs pulled the ball out of his handoff, and keep it on the read option.
This may explain why this year Dobbs seems to be reluctant to pull the ball out and keep it when the read clearly suggests he do so.

Feeding the ego.
 
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Only thing I'm going to say on this whole absurd Hurd thing is.....

I hope we don't line up in anything but the I-Formation for the rest of the year.
 
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volatil said:
Ziti that was a great post.

Thanks for being the voice of reason when those of us are unreasonable.
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I don't think you have a choice but to take chances on kids.

But more than that I think Butch probably had to cater to the 5* mid state jewel of the class for a couple of seasons due to where we were at as a program. Bama and Ohio state type teams don't have to do that because they tell a kid to get to stepping if they are dumb enough to request a scheme change.
 
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I wonder how many five-star athletes Butch Jones had to deal with at Central Michigan and Cincinnati this may be where he has his problem dealing with these five star athletes and their mindset as compared to a one or two star athletes who don't usually come in with an attitude
 
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