Why are we ignoring this?

More deflection.

I'm interested in hearing confessed Hillary voters who decry Trump's knowledge, experience, wisdom and willingness to listen explain the horrid decisions Hillary has made.

Just because it's not the answer you want doesn't mean it's a deflection.

Hillary has made some piss poor decisions, but at least she seems to have a basic grasp of current events. Donald doesn't know crap and has no interest in learning. He just makes ignorant false statements designed to fire up his redneck base.
 
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Just because it's not the answer you want doesn't mean it's a deflection.

Hillary has made some piss poor decisions, but at least she seems to have a basic grasp of current events. Donald doesn't know crap and has no interest in learning. He just makes ignorant false statements designed to fire up his redneck base.

That'll be the difference. Hillary's record should be picked clean and laid bare to the public, but Trump isn't capable of articulating cogent arguments against her because he has almost no knowledge of current events. The usual argument is that he will surround himself with capable advisors to mitigate this problem, and while that may be true, he hasn't shown any desire to listen to any outside input throughout this entire campaign. Add that to his propensity to fly off the handle and people are going to be skeptical.

Kasich confirmed that Trump's campaign reached out to his staff with an offer for him to become the most powerful VP of all time, in charge of both domestic and foreign policy. That is not a sign of a man who has any interest in truly doing the job.
 
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That'll be the difference. Hillary's record should be picked clean and laid bare to the public, but Trump isn't capable of articulating cogent arguments against her because he has almost no knowledge of current events. The usual argument is that he will surround himself with capable advisors to mitigate this problem, and while that may be true, he hasn't shown any desire to listen to any outside input throughout this entire campaign. Add that to his propensity to fly off the handle and people are going to be skeptical.

Kasich confirmed that Trump's campaign reached out to his staff with an offer for him to become the most powerful VP of all time, in charge of both domestic and foreign policy. That is not a sign of a man who has any interest in truly doing the job.
He has Mike Pence for that job. His resume isn't that far removed from Kasich's. Trump delegates responsibility to competent people.
 
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Just because it's not the answer you want doesn't mean it's a deflection.

Hillary has made some piss poor decisions, but at least she seems to have a basic grasp of current events. Donald doesn't know crap and has no interest in learning. He just makes ignorant false statements designed to fire up his redneck base.

We're not discussing Trump, he's garbage for a candidate we can agree on that.

What I'm wanting to know is how someone like you who has declared themselves as a Hillary voter puts aside her dismal record of failure? What gives you any hope that decisions as POTUS will be any better.

As BB said you are what your record says you are.
 
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He has Mike Pence for that job. His resume isn't that far removed from Kasich's. Trump delegates responsibility to competent people.

I'll bet that Kasich understands how condoms work against spreading std's. Something that apparently escapes Pence. I'll also wager that John Kasich has never supported conversion therapy for homosexuals.

I don't know about you but I have far fewer questions about Kasich's judgment than Pences'.
 
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I'll bet that Kasich understands how condoms work against spreading std's. Something that apparently escapes Pence. I'll also wager that John Kasich has never supported conversion therapy for homosexuals.

I don't know about you but I have far fewer questions about Kasich's judgment than Pences'.

You question judgement, yet still support Hillary?

Gotcha. Like I said earlier.....
 
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I'll bet that Kasich understands how condoms work against spreading std's. Something that apparently escapes Pence. I'll also wager that John Kasich has never supported conversion therapy for homosexuals.

I don't know about you but I have far fewer questions about Kasich's judgment than Pences'.
Well, since condoms will remain on sale, and conversion therapy won't be in widespread usage, I would say those are both moot points.
 
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He has Mike Pence for that job. His resume isn't that far removed from Kasich's. Trump delegates responsibility to competent people.

I have serious doubts about the guy who said "I alone can fix it" ceding complete control of domestic and foreign policy and becoming a figurehead/cheerleader. Since he'll still presumably be representing America abroad, it will be pretty concerning if he continues to not immerse himself in the issues even as president.
 
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We're not discussing Trump, he's garbage for a candidate we can agree on that.

What I'm wanting to know is how someone like you who has declared themselves as a Hillary voter puts aside her dismal record of failure? What gives you any hope that decisions as POTUS will be any better.

As BB said you are what your record says you are.

Because Trump has done nothing to inspire confidence that he is a better option.

If he acted the part instead acting like some carnival barker, I would vote for him. He's a buffoon. Basically, I think that both candidates are bad for the country, but I think Donald will be far worse.
 
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Because Trump has done nothing to inspire confidence that he is a better option.

If he acted the part instead acting like some carnival barker, I would vote for him. He's a buffoon. Basically, I think that both candidates are bad for the country, but I think Donald will be far worse.

I've conceded your points about Trump counselor, now make the case for why you have confidence in Hillary. If you can.
 
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Because Trump has done nothing to inspire confidence that he is a better option.

If he acted the part instead acting like some carnival barker, I would vote for him. He's a buffoon. Basically, I think that both candidates are bad for the country, but I think Donald will be far worse.
Then you are supporting Hillary.
 
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I've conceded your points about Trump counselor, now make the case for why you have confidence in Hillary. If you can.

I don't have confidence. My lack confidence in her is simply exceeded by my lack of confidence in Trump.

Is that direct enough for you? :)
 
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Why not throw your vote to a 3rd party?

I would, but in a battleground state that is regularly decided in fairly close fashion, I feel like have to vote for someone that stands a realistic shot. I want Johnson on the debate stage. The American people deserve that.
 
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I would, but in a battleground state that is regularly decided in fairly close fashion, I feel like have to vote for someone that stands a realistic shot. I want Johnson on the debate stage. The American people deserve that.

You're getting a Johnson with crunchy peanut butter regardless.
 
Then you are supporting Hillary.

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I'm going to level with you here, do I believe at one point in time Hillary Clinton has lied during this campaign, yes.However, the political experience is there in her camp as opposed to trump. Now people may argue "Benghazi, people died etc..." But the fact of the matter is, if Donald Trump is elected many many more will die than in Benghazi due to his lack of experience, his temperament, and his tendency to overreact in the smallest of situations. That's how I see it I am choosing the lesser of two evils in my eyes.

Right now the body count is 4-0. Got a link for Trump deaths?
 
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Because Trump has done nothing to inspire confidence that he is a better option.

If he acted the part instead acting like some carnival barker, I would vote for him. He's a buffoon. Basically, I think that both candidates are bad for the country, but I think Donald will be far worse.

So you are saying Trump has actually died? Because as long as he is breathing he is a much better option than the lying **** HRC.
 
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You'll vote for her. No one is buying anything otherwise.

It's apparent you don't have the mental capacity to separate ideas or concepts. Pointing this out to you may irritate you, but it doesn't change that fact. Just as not liking Trump doesn't mean one supports Clinton.

For someone who likes to run around calling people "stupid", you sure don't put much thought into your posts.
 
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It's apparent you don't have the mental capacity to separate ideas or concepts. Pointing this out to you may irritate you, but it doesn't change that fact. Just as not liking Trump doesn't mean one supports Clinton.

For someone who likes to run around calling people "stupid", you sure don't put much thought into your posts.

Oh no, don't worry, you don't irritate. You humor me. You provide comic relief for the forum.

Please, continue.
 
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