Title IX lawsuit settled for $2.48 million

[norrislakevol]

OJ was tried criminally first.
That is a huge difference.
Their lawsuit was a last-ditch effort to make OJ pay.
The majority of these girls went straight to financial lawsuit and it's against UT not the people they said are responsible.
Surely you see how that's not getting justice against those they are accusing?

If none of this has any bearing on your opinion, we'll call it an impasse. The example you gave, is a good reason lawsuits should exist. Unfortunately, it is the polar opposite of what is happening here.

Yes, and one of the girls just this year refused to file criminal charges against a player and immediately joined the suit. Also, I do believe that one of them has a history of bringing frivolous lawsuits.

 

[bamawriter]

OJ was tried criminally first.

What if he'd been foiund guilty, and then the Browns and Goldmans still sued him?

If none of this has any bearing on your opinion, we'll call it an impasse. The example you gave, is a good reason lawsuits should exist. Unfortunately, it is the polar opposite of what is happening here.

The Title IX law, as currently executed, sucks. It needs some serious revision. But crap laws are still laws. If the ladies felt that the school didn't protect them as it should have, how is it not seeking justice to go after the school? It seems like thos lawsuit has spurred some changes in the way the school approaches Title IX cases, so that has to count for something.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I don't like the precedent that this sets!

What keeps other women from bringing such lawsuits?

This is nothing more than a money grab.

This precedent was set a long time ago and it has happened in many Universities and individuals, including Tennessee and Archie and Peyton. This is nothing new and seems to be the method of choice for low class women to bribe those with deep pockets. It seems if you are an athlete, you are fair games in the area of sex. They, the players, have to use better judgement and limit-avoid-control their physical desires with superior mental conditional. Beware of your actions and be prepared to pay the concequences.

 

[chargervol]

What if he'd been foiund guilty, and then the Browns and Goldmans still sued him?



The Title IX law, as currently executed, sucks. It needs some serious revision. But crap laws are still laws. If the ladies felt that the school didn't protect them as it should have, how is it not seeking justice to go after the school? It seems like thos lawsuit has spurred some changes in the way the school approaches Title IX cases, so that has to count for something.

I don't really care if they sue after a criminal trial, they had already proven what they were willing to go through for criminal justice. Leaving no doubt in anyone's mind, what was truly important to them.

Once again, polar opposite.
I've got to head off to work, and this is definitely going to stay an impasse. Your examples have only strengthened my opinion.

 

[Remy]

You do realize this is separate from the rape cases, right? This was a lawsuit about the culture that UT athletics allegedly turned a blind eye to. AJ and Michael Williams still have to stand trial. Alexis Johnson is still on probation. I swear most of the people posting on this thread have no idea how the legal system works.

True, because most of us have very limited contact with what we are taught and inundated with via media propaganda on a daily basis that which is termed a "justice system." When we as individuals finally have some skin in the game like UTAD being sued we find out it is a legal system and winners/losers are determined largely due to those who know how best to maneuver and manipulate that system. If justice occurs at all it is by pure accident and never was a consideration by those on either side manipulating the system. The moral to the story, stay away from the slime who make their daily bread in the courthouses across this nation, from the judges down to the employees in the various clerks offices as much as you possibly can IMO.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I wish more had this view. Everyone just wants it settled for the sake of ease and for recruiting. The reputation of the university and our athletics program be damned, we don't want to have to hear about this during the football season!

FTR, I don't think the lawsuit played into our 2017 recruiting class being disappointing thus far as many fans would like to believe. But, even if it did, I still would not agree with settling a frivolous and meritless lawsuit.

While true, these charges are, she said-he said, and while I don't think they would have won, the price of not settelting the case has been a sever hurdle in recruiting. I know from talking to a Clemson coach that it has been a factor in the athletes which they have been recruiting. They have been telling recruits that CBJ will be in trouble and may not be coaching at Tennessee in the future.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

What if he'd been foiund guilty, and then the Browns and Goldmans still sued him?



The Title IX law, as currently executed, sucks. It needs some serious revision. But crap laws are still laws. If the ladies felt that the school didn't protect them as it should have, how is it not seeking justice to go after the school? It seems like thos lawsuit has spurred some changes in the way the school approaches Title IX cases, so that has to count for something.

What ifs can and have been asked about almost any situation which is disputed by two or more people and there is no answer to that question. What if Title IX had not been enacted, or if did not hole the Colleges responsible for its enforcement if if they are not qualified to investigate claims brought against them. The 'what ifs" can go on and on.Surely you realize your stance is lame and the actions of a troll.

 

[Joefoxx]

Were Jamie Naughright and Jenny Wright plaintiffs?

 

[volfan102455]

Well now, that's just your opinion, isn't it. From my perspective, $200k is way more than what I have so far put into my business and my business hopefully will provide for me the rest of my life. It's also slightly more than what my parents' home cost 10 years ago, and they'll have paid two-to-three times that amount over the full 15-year term of their mortgage. So, yeah, that's a lot of money to me. You must be doing pretty well for yourself if $200k is of no significance in your own life. Congrats.

I didn't say that the amount would not be significant to those involved - just that it was not substantial which I would equate to a life sustaining amount of money. This amount of money will not provide a lifelong stream of income to the plaintiffs. It will be enough for them to pay for their college education if they so choose to do so or they can buy a house, a nice car, etc.

Using the numbers you provided on average income, an average person would make this amount of money in 3 to 4 years, a college graduate in 2 to 3.

 

[LWSVOL]

Were Jamie Naughright and Jenny Wright plaintiffs?

not in the title IX suit. Wright was going to be a witness for the plaintiffs.

 

[MustafaRasta]

Well now, that's just your opinion, isn't it. From my perspective, $200k is way more than what I have so far put into my business and my business hopefully will provide for me the rest of my life. It's also slightly more than what my parents' home cost 10 years ago, and they'll have paid two-to-three times that amount over the full 15-year term of their mortgage. So, yeah, that's a lot of money to me. You must be doing pretty well for yourself if $200k is of no significance in your own life. Congrats.

It's not a lot of money in context to other cases of similar or lesser extent.

If you think the Miami Heat are cool to offer Wade a million bucks because it cost more than your Grampa's house so therefore that's a lot of money then you seem to miss the larger point of context.

Do you think 35 thousand is a lot? It's not to the Writer's Guild of America. I can't even work on a script for less than 38,500 or 10% of the total budget. The 38.5 is a safety net bare minimum.

 

[volfan102455]

The interesting thing in this thread is the comparison to injury related settlements. Those are different. Typically an injury related suit is about obtaining money for lost wages (past, current and future) that result from the injury or proving life long disability. That is not typically something for a a criminal court to decide upon. In those situations, folks have no other recourse.

This was not an injury related lawsuit though the laws that govern both types of lawsuits may be similar. It was not even a civil suit against those accused of the crime. It was a lawsuit meant to extract $$'s from an entity that has $$'s.

 

[MeandMrsJones]

Can't agree with that. If there was nothing there no way you pay 2mil

2 million is a bargain. Don't you think the other SEC schools would be glad to split the cost of 2 million to keep that negative false B.S blasting out on TV all season.

 

[utvolpj]

There are also 100+ of these pending around the country. The minimum cost to settle them has now been set

 

[butchna]

I believe the maestros of this lawsuit went into this with the FSU 8 mil settlement as the minimum. More than likely they saw an additional 4 mil would be kicked in to make it go away quickly. NO WAY they would have settled for 1.2 mil! This 2.4 figure is THEM settling after the faults in their case became more and more apparent.

 

[bamawriter]

What ifs can and have been asked about almost any situation which is disputed by two or more people and there is no answer to that question. What if Title IX had not been enacted, or if did not hole the Colleges responsible for its enforcement if if they are not qualified to investigate claims brought against them. The 'what ifs" can go on and on.Surely you realize your stance is lame and the actions of a troll.

You quote me dissing Title IX, proceed to further diss Title IX, then call me a troll.

Awesome stuff.

 

[NashLawVol]

Were Jamie Naughright and Jenny Wright plaintiffs?

No

 

[VOLINVONORE]

No

I don't think anyone outside the the lawyers bringing suit know since the accusers are Jane Does. I thought that those two had agreed to not seek additional money when they were awarded funds earlier. I did read where one of them had told a reporter that she was broke and need to get additional money. These people remind me of those who have 8-10 children out of wedlock and continue to draw welfare even though they have been living with the same person/man for 15-20 years.

 

[sjt18]

Purely an economic decision for UT. If the plaintiffs had any kind of case, each of them would have gotten more than the total settlement.

Much ado about nothing like many of us thought a long time ago.

 

[RikidyBones]

I believe the maestros of this lawsuit went into this with the FSU 8 mil settlement as the minimum. More than likely they saw an additional 4 mil would be kicked in to make it go away quickly. NO WAY they would have settled for 1.2 mil! This 2.4 figure is THEM settling after the faults in their case became more and more apparent.

Where are you getting 8 million for fsu. Pretty sure it was only 950k

 

[NashLawVol]

This case was headed for settlement the moment it was filed. There was no other logical outcome. People saying UT should have fought it all the way to a jury verdict fail to take into account how much time, money and personal toll that would take. The only thing I am in shock about is the amount it settled for. From the outside looking in I thought it would be valued higher than the $2.5 million it settled for. My personal opinion is once the judge imposed the gag order the Plaintiffs lost the ability to apply pressure daily with stories in the Tennessean. Once the daily drumbeat of bad press stopped the Plaintiffs lost the ability to control the public opinion so they settled.

Neither side probably wanted to go to the discovery phase in this. Would you? Every aspect of your life scrutinized and judged. From the Plaintiffs side, how much you drink, if you take prescription or illegal drugs, how many people you have slept with, etc., etc., etc. From UT's side think about who would be deposed. Are any of you really comfortable with what Lane Kiffin or Derek Dooley, or Bruce Pearl, or Mike Hamilton would say about the "culture" at UT?

This matter ended where both sides are probably satisfied or at least comfortable with the outcome. There are no "winners" or "losers".

 

[NashLawVol]

I don't think anyone outside the the lawyers bringing suit know since the accusers are Jane Does. I thought that those two had agreed to not seek additional money when they were awarded funds earlier. I did read where one of them had told a reporter that she was broke and need to get additional money. These people remind me of those who have 8-10 children out of wedlock and continue to draw welfare even though they have been living with the same person/man for 15-20 years.

True, know one knows the actual Jane Does but from reading the allegations made by the Jane Does it can be reasonably assumed neither of those two are Plaintiffs

 

[bamawriter]

This case was headed for settlement the moment it was filed. There was no other logical outcome. People saying UT should have fought it all the way to a jury verdict fail to take into account how much time, money and personal toll that would take. The only thing I am in shock about is the amount it settled for. From the outside looking in I thought it would be valued higher than the $2.5 million it settled for. My personal opinion is once the judge imposed the gag order the Plaintiffs lost the ability to apply pressure daily with stories in the Tennessean. Once the daily drumbeat of bad press stopped the Plaintiffs lost the ability to control the public opinion so they settled.

This.

And I assume that there is an NDA involved in this settlement, so the plaintiffs can't immediately run to a sympathetic journalist and air the dirty laundry. Go all the way thru litigation, and there's nothing to prevent the accusers from going public, win or lose.

 

[jordan4vols]

This case was headed for settlement the moment it was filed. There was no other logical outcome. People saying UT should have fought it all the way to a jury verdict fail to take into account how much time, money and personal toll that would take. The only thing I am in shock about is the amount it settled for. From the outside looking in I thought it would be valued higher than the $2.5 million it settled for. My personal opinion is once the judge imposed the gag order the Plaintiffs lost the ability to apply pressure daily with stories in the Tennessean. Once the daily drumbeat of bad press stopped the Plaintiffs lost the ability to control the public opinion so they settled.

Neither side probably wanted to go to the discovery phase in this. Would you? Every aspect of your life scrutinized and judged. From the Plaintiffs side, how much you drink, if you take prescription or illegal drugs, how many people you have slept with, etc., etc., etc. From UT's side think about who would be deposed. Are any of you really comfortable with what Lane Kiffin or Derek Dooley, or Bruce Pearl, or Mike Hamilton would say about the "culture" at UT?

This matter ended where both sides are probably satisfied or at least comfortable with the outcome. There are no "winners" or "losers".

This 1000 times over

 

[bigdaddy]

This case was headed for settlement the moment it was filed. There was no other logical outcome. People saying UT should have fought it all the way to a jury verdict fail to take into account how much time, money and personal toll that would take. The only thing I am in shock about is the amount it settled for. From the outside looking in I thought it would be valued higher than the $2.5 million it settled for. My personal opinion is once the judge imposed the gag order the Plaintiffs lost the ability to apply pressure daily with stories in the Tennessean. Once the daily drumbeat of bad press stopped the Plaintiffs lost the ability to control the public opinion so they settled.

Neither side probably wanted to go to the discovery phase in this. Would you? Every aspect of your life scrutinized and judged. From the Plaintiffs side, how much you drink, if you take prescription or illegal drugs, how many people you have slept with, etc., etc., etc. From UT's side think about who would be deposed. Are any of you really comfortable with what Lane Kiffin or Derek Dooley, or Bruce Pearl, or Mike Hamilton would say about the "culture" at UT?

This matter ended where both sides are probably satisfied or at least comfortable with the outcome. There are no "winners" or "losers".

This is exactly why I'm glad we settled. There was no other option.