Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXVI

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Jimmy Hyams
@JimmyHyams: Apparently UT Board of Trustees pushed for settlement in Executive Session.
 
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vol2002 said:
Yep. That's the calculation. People will misread this and say by doing it they are implicitly admitting guilt, but that's really not the case. Most rational people in their shoes would do the same, all things considered.
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Nope. It's sad but it's reality. On a much smaller scale say you have someone claiming injury caused by you from car wreck whatever...they want 2000. You deny anything and are sued. Initial atty fees for interrogatories, depos, etc would be 1500. Better off to just settle and go on. University did same thing
 
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#2,731
Butch puts in new policy. All player/female contact can only take place after video recorded consent and signed off on by at least 3 sober witnesses. TIFWIW
 
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#2,732
Pretty stoked to see the settlement. Part of me wanted the University to fight this, but $2.4 million for all plaintiffs is a bargain.
 
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I'm guessing these girls are somewhat pissed, assuming their lawyer sold them dreams of a $100million dollar judgement.

The actions of their side through the whole thing proved it was only about the money.
 
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Aesius said:
What if UF or UGA has a miracle 2013 Auburn season and goes 12-0 and we go 11-1? Or 11-1 and we go 10-2?

Butch shouldn't be on the hot seat or even remotely close to it unless it's clear that he's no longer improving the program and is in fact causing it to regress.

There's no scenario in which Butch should be on the hot seat with, say, an 11-2 record with no ATL appearance but a Citrus Bowl/Sugar Bowl/Cotton Bowl win and a top 10 postseason ranking.

Also, I think the team could be very good in 2017, and Butch shouldn't be on the hot seat heading into that year if he wins at least 10 games this season. The lines of scrimmage will be flat out dominant, and who knows what QD/JG can bring to the offense. That team could win 10+ games easily the same way LSU did it damn near every season until 2014. They've made it to ATL many years with nothing but a loaded defense, which we will still have even with the losses of JRM and Sutton.
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Florida had that last year.
 
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WallyBalls said:
I'm guessing these girls are somewhat pissed, assuming their lawyer sold them dreams of a $100million dollar judgement.

The actions of their side through the whole thing proved it was only about the money.
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This. Money grab as we knew. UT came out of this in good shape. No more Butch is going to get fired BS.

The defense knew their costs would increase significantly as the depositions and filings began. They knew their case was weak or it would not have been at that low of number.

Now - enough with the excuses. Time to win and then the elite recruits will come. Let's get on with building football dominance.
 
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Aesius said:
The whole "if Butch can't win it now, he never will" is an overreaction. Look at Dabo. He was the king of empty 10 win seasons for a long time. Then he got over the hump in 2013, but it still took him two more seasons to capitalize. It happens.

If their fanbase was impatient, he would have been fired after losing 5 or 6 in a row to Spurrier and they would be hoping for a 9 win season in 2016.
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Good post
 
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VFLBerg said:
Seems really a really low amount to me. considering the number of plaintiffs and the huge chunk of that the plaintiff attorneys will get.
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It is. Our legal team ought to be celebrating. That's peanuts and no admission of guilt. Two more years of bad PR and negative recruiting just waiting for the case to go to trial would've hurt a lot more than the peanuts we're paying out.
 
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SIAP, but I think this whole lawsuit was brought by some irate women to get even with Dave Hart. Closure will be partly when UT pays the settlement, and partly when Hart is ushered out the door.
 
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Option A: Pay $2.5, admit no guilt, and its over in July 2016.

Option B: Pay over at least $5 million in legal fees, expose University and Ath. Dept. to court proceedings, and maybe, MAYBE win in court sometime in 2018 or 2019.

Go ahead and grumble if you want, but you'll look like an idiot. If you wanted it done earlier, price would have been double or triple, if not higher.
 
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Volnerd said:
SIAP, but I think this whole lawsuit was brought by some irate women to get even with Dave Hart. Closure will be partly when UT pays the settlement, and partly when Hart is ushered out the door.
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I believe I remember it being stated in the past that this was really being pushed behind the scenes by former UT employees pissed at Hart and his 'attack' on the Lady Vols side of the AD.
 
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Let's all just support the program and leave the past in the past. Butch should handle the recruiting the way he sees fit, that's why he has the job. He's done well selling a dream and it does not appear the AA is breathing down our necks. He knows he needs to win, which is why he wanted Shoop so bad - and got him. He knew the difference was the D and a few of his game day decisions. He will get it done this season.

All is well. There are many elite recruits we can land around the country before NSD. This staff is strong at every position group except one and he is on the clock. With P-Willy, Smith Malone and Jennings to go with some real talent coming in - there's plenty there to get the job done.
 
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I never understood the thinking that the lawsuit was in some way impacting recruiting. The fact that money, 2.48 million made it all go away points to no reason it would have or should have impacted recruiting. Its not like coaches jobs, scholarships, or bowl bids were ever even part of it. Money, that's it.
 
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BruinVol said:
Maybe so but there was a lot of talk about this all being bs. Seems like to much $ to go thru all this for doing nothing wrong
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Sounds like you're disappointed you can't beat this into the ground...every thread. :wacko:
 
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