Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXVI

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You study all the great coaches, the traits that made them successful, and you try to incorporate those into your own program and teams,” he said. “She demanded excellence and her teams played to her personality.”

But, Jones noted: “It was about more than basketball for her – it was about life. She wanted every player that left the program to be prepared for the next stage of their life. Every player received a degree, and that was as important to her as any win on the court. She wouldn’t settle for anything but the best effort on the court and in the classroom.

I know a ton of people rip CBJ constantly because of his clichés and coach speak. But his statement about Coach Summitt really shows me a consistency to his message.

Maybe, just maybe, he has actually taken things from all these people he references. Maybe he means it.

Sure the 21st century cynic part of me has doubts, but maybe its real.
 
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Everyone is used to subpar Tennessee teams. They haven't bought into the new reality.

Anyone who doubts what this team is made of proves their ignorance and shortsightedness. This team is talented enough, mature enough, and deep enough to be consistently great this season

Truth. Watching the spring practice videos, it was obvious that our current team is much bigger and more athletic than recent UT teams. All Butch and Co have to do is not screw or up.
 
Thanks for sharing. Moisture tried to creep out of my eye, but I forced that fella back in.

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I have cried twice in my life. Once when I was seven and I was hit by a school bus. And then again when I heard that Li'l Sebastian had passed.


In all seriousness, I've been pretty upset about Pat's passing. I love anything related to the Vols so I obviously supported her and the Lady Vols. My wife was an even bigger fan of her's and always looked up to her. Training in medicine places you around people suffering from all sorts of illnesses, and I can only imagine the scene at her bedside in these recent times. I've also visited family members recently suffering from their own illnesses, one from a recent stroke and the other from dementia, and I think this whole thing with Pat has affected me more due to that. It sucks, but she isn't suffering anymore.
 
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I have cried twice in my life. Once when I was seven and I was hit by a school bus. And then again when I heard that Li'l Sebastian had passed.


In all seriousness, I've been pretty upset about Pat's passing. I love anything related to the Vols so I obviously supported her and the Lady Vols. My wife was an even bigger fan of her's and always looked up to her. Training in medicine places you around people suffering from all sorts of illnesses, and I can only imagine the scene at her bedside in these recent times. I've also visited family members recently suffering from their own illnesses, one from a recent stroke and the other from dementia, and I think this whole thing with Pat has affected me more due to that. It sucks, but she isn't suffering anymore.

Even on a sad day, I can appreciate a Ron Swanson and Lil' Sebastian reference.
 
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An interesting off season fact to nibble on:

No cross division rivals in the SEC have ever met in the SEC title game.

TN v Bama
UGA v. Barn
UF v. LSU
USC v. Ark (now Tx am)
UK v. Miss St.
VU v. Ole Miss
Mizzu v. Tx am (now Ark)

Wonder if TN v. Bama in 2016 could be the first time cross division rivals meet in Atlanta for the conference title?
 
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An interesting off season fact to nibble on:

No cross division rivals in the SEC have ever met in the SEC title game.

TV v Bama
UGA v. Barn
UF v. LSU
USC v. Ark (now Tx am)
UK v. Miss St.
VU v. Ole Miss
Mizzu v. Tx am (now Ark)

Wonder if TN v. Bama in 2016 could be the first time cross division rivals meet in Atlanta for the conference title?
That's an incredible little piece of trivia.
 
David Blackburn for AD - period. There are some things you just do and don't mess up. This is one of those things. The same applies to the Chancellor position. Do it right.

With all the Pat stories, where do you start and stop? My family and I had several through the years. Many in the inner circle were connected through a common place of worship for a couple decades. We saw Tyler grow up. Pat was Pat - no hidden agendas or pretenses. Not everything in her life was easy, she had life events to face as all of us do. The fame and resulting responsibilities came at a cost personally. But she was willing to pay it to help others and is now in the arms of her Savior, where all believers want to be. Prayers for peace and comfort for all those that are affected by her loss. Going to miss you, Coach.

This football season is setting up to be awesome. I hope all in Vol nation are rewarded for their loyalty. Most Excellent Fan cards have been earned and issued that will supersede the bandwagon. The annual catch and release from the Ignore list will happen soon. Still questioning my sanity (and motives) for that one.
 
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That's an incredible little piece of trivia.

Here is the match ups so for in the SEC Title game:

Alabama vs. Florida - 8 times

LSU vs. Georgia - 3

Arkansas vs. Florida - 2
Auburn vs. Tennessee - 2
LSU vs. Tennessee - 2

Alabama vs. Georgia -1
Alabama vs. Missouri -1
Auburn vs. Florida -1
Auburn vs. Missouri -1
Auburn vs. South Carolina -1
Arkansas vs. Georgia -1
Mississippi State vs. Tennessee -1

These teams have never played in the SEC title game:

Ole Miss
Vandy
UK
 
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I know a ton of people rip CBJ constantly because of his clichés and coach speak. But his statement about Coach Summitt really shows me a consistency to his message.

Maybe, just maybe, he has actually taken things from all these people he references. Maybe he means it.

Sure the 21st century cynic part of me has doubts, but maybe its real.

Butch is only in his 4th year here and didn't stay long enough at his other schools to allow his players to set a standard and culture. But, you see and hear from guys like Dobbs, Hurd, JRM, Sutton, Barnett, Kamara, and the list can go on. These players are very talented but also great representatives of our university. You even hear about some of these traits for our freshmen, who haven't even played a down yet. People complain sometimes that we take 3 stars, but it appears that part of his recruiting strategy is to take talent, yet, also take players are who are smart, have great personalities, are team oriented and willing to work hard. Those extra traits can turn a 3 star into an All-American. A 4 star without those off the field traits give you nothing. Those are things that Pat Summitt stood for and also looked for when she recruited. She molded her players into winners because of worth ethic, team work, and many were great people.

I think Butch really means what he says. If he stays here long enough, I think you will see that quite clear in his program.
 
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It truly pains me in my heart to say goodbye to a great person.

I had the pleasure to meet and talk to Pat several times during my time on the hill. Had several long conversations with her and it breaks my heart to think about all the life she still had left before this horrible disease took over.

Prayers to the family, Tyler, and may Pat RIP.

Not ashamed or too tough to say I have shed more than a couple tears today. I will always remember PAT
 
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I met Pat once...at Kroger on Kingston Pike, of all places. I remember rounding the corner and literally having to catch my breath. I'd never been starstruck before then nor since. A living legend, in the cereal isle (IIRC), pushing a shopping cart as if she was a normal human being and not this larger than life figure.

I couldn't speak, all I could muster was a stupid ear-to-ear smile like I had some sort of mental disability. She smiled back and said something like "Hello, young man..."

To this day I can't tell you what, if anything, came out of my mouth. It was probably some inaudible groan.

She was special and she will continue to be missed. Prayers for the Summit family.

Awesome, I've had some experiences similar as well. Funny one is in January I met Thon Maker in Nashville at a hotel bar near airport he was going to Canada I suppose, no idea who he was. He had on a traveling amateur basketball tshirt so I was like hey man you got any offers? He was like yea Indiana, Notre Dame etc and I was thinking yea ok. Drafted 10th. Beast. I'm an idiot. My goofy drunk wife got a picture because she's from Indiana and was all go Hoosier's wooo! He got a waiver somehow I guess Canada resident and entered the draft. If he's the next goat I will wish I got that pic from his humble times.
 
When I was a lowly freshman in high school we had a summer basketball camp at UT. it was the first real camp many of us had ever been to. Tyler Summit was a year older than me and we ended up in a JV tournament at the end of the camp against his team. Despite the UT men's and women's teams having practices/workouts/whatever that summer Pat managed to come to Tyler's game and run the clock (UT's excuse to get her there from other duties we were told.)

We had a pretty damn good team ourselves, about 8 of us the year before had played at the highest level we could reach for our middle school team (It wasn't a state championship, but the furthest you could go for the region) and had played in an AAU league in Coalfield against juniors/seniors in high school and won nearly all of those games. None of us were outstandingly good but we all were above average and played a terrifying press defense, and we ran it against Tyler's team to perfection that game and completely shut them down. At halftime we had caused him personally to commit six turnovers (we kept track because he was Pat Summit's kid after all) and I remember after a particularly bad one where we trapped him at half court I looked over in her direction where the ball was and caught her stare and immediately stopped running on the fast break. Luckily the guy who got the steal didn't need me or see the stare himself, but I felt this terrible combination of emotions the likes of which I'd never felt before, and it wasn't even directed at me, it was like a grenade and I just happened to be a casualty in the blast radius.

After the game my parents told me to ask her for a picture, and I really didn't have the courage to want to, but I sheepishly went up and said "Coach Summit, would it be all right for me to get a picture?" and she immediately put on a smile and said, "Of course young man." My dad walked over with the camera and I was standing next to her, but keeping a good distance because I was drenched in sweat, and just as he raised the camera she put her arm around me and pulled me in close. After the picture she patted me on the back and said my coach should be proud of my hustle and rebounding, and after that I didn't hear a word my own coach said about the game because Pat Summit just took a picture with me and complimented me.

I've still got that picture in an album back home, probably the highlight of my basketball career really as none of us were good enough to go anywhere for college, but I never at the time thought a woman who was barely half my size could stop me dead with an unintentional stare, and even more I never thought someone so kind and so powerful all at once would be gone less than ten years later.

The world isn't fair. But the people throughout history who have the power to change the world seem to get the unfair stick more often than others. And when it comes to race, women's right's, and anything minority wise, it seems those pioneers and leaders have always been subject to the worst of it. Pat didn't just single handedly make women's basketball relevant, she made women's athletics and how colleges treat women relevant, and influenced millions in not just sports but every walk of life that she could.

The world didn't lose a great coach, a believer, or a pioneer. It lost one of the greatest people who has lived in this era of human history, and easily the greatest person I have ever met, and probably will ever meet, in my lifetime.
 
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Daloth, thanks for sharing. Great story! Pat did everything the right way. I hope Team 120 dedicates this season to her, and goes out and wins it all for her.
 
You skipped the recruit threads and came to the "talk" thread to bi*#h about people talking???

It becomes more evident every day as to why they have to include "do not ingest/take orally" on everything thing from motor oil to Preperation H.

george brett
 
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You skipped the recruit threads and came to the "talk" thread to bi*#h about people talking???

It becomes more evident every day as to why they have to include "do not ingest/take orally" on everything thing from motor oil to Preperation H.

Personally, I lurk the "Recruiting Forum Football Talk" thread to read about football recruiting. I wish more posters would use the off topic thread when appropriate.
 
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