2016 Election Thread Part Deux

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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I do hope you're right.
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You could already see Hillary trying to appeal to Bernie supporters last night. But like VB pointed out in the Hillary thread, it's kind of hard for her to connect with those demanding income equality while wearing a jacket that costs as much as a decent used car.

I see a nice division in the DNC this year. Hillary has to come back towards the center in order to court those voters. And when she does, she'll abandon the waves of new voters that came on board specifically for Bernie. And in a panic, she's reverse positions (again) trying to placate everyone at the same time. And be shown as a fool for it as Trump will eat her alive.

I'm not a Trump supporter and I'm even on the fence about Johnson at this point. I might do a write in (Foghorn here we come) and vote in State and local elections. Trump will get Oklahoma without me.
 
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golfballs said:
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:crazy: Hillary seems to think she won the world in this pic.....idiot.
 
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Grand Vol said:
You could already see Hillary trying to appeal to Bernie supporters last night. But like VB pointed out in the Hillary thread, it's kind of hard for her to connect with those demanding income equality while wearing a jacket that costs as much as a decent used car.

I see a nice division in the DNC this year. Hillary has to come back towards the center in order to court those voters. And when she does, she'll abandon the waves of new voters that came on board specifically for Bernie. And in a panic, she's reverse positions (again) trying to placate everyone at the same time. And be shown as a fool for it as Trump will eat her alive.

I'm not a Trump supporter and I'm even on the fence about Johnson at this point. I might do a write in (Foghorn here we come) and vote in State and local elections. Trump will get Oklahoma without me.
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You make good points. I don't plan on voting, unless some specific issue on the state/county level directly affects me. Alabama will go for trump, Johnson is a charlatan at best imo.
 
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Interesting article:

Hillary Clinton and the 'FBI Primary' | Fox News

Blakeman says the FBI has deliberately waited to interview Hillary Clinton until after the primaries because the bureau did not want to interfere with the nominating process. He thinks the FBI is “likely” to recommend to the Department of Justice whether or not she should be indicted for violating what she says are agency rules and what others call the law between now and the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, which begins July 25.

If she is indicted before the convention, Blakeman says, it will give the party an opportunity to make changes in the rules that could result in an alternate nominee.

Here is the intriguing part about Blakeman’s scenario: “If a grand jury is empaneled, or if she were to be indicted before the convention, the Democrats would have to let her go.” If an indictment were to come after the convention, he says, it presents a different problem because each state needs to certify their ballots before November. If an indictment occurs after the states have certified their ballots, it would be nearly impossible to replace Hillary Clinton with another candidate.
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lawgator1 said:
Why did you omit the first few paragraphs?

Just curious since they give VERY important context to the rest.
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Because as I explained to another poster, I never toss up the entire article. When you have sleezeballs like Righthaven and their ambulance chasing lawyers going after site owners, I learned not to post everything.

If you're complaining about it being "speculation," I omitted the major speculation in the end.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Because as I explained to another poster, I never toss up the entire article. When you have sleezeballs like Righthaven and their ambulance chasing lawyers going after site owners, I learned not to post everything.

If you're complaining about it being "speculation," I omitted the major speculation in the end.
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I was referring to the "source" as a Bush official who was openly soeculating, as reported by a conservative commentator for a GOP network. And them reporting it as news. And you posting it as though it was news. When it is not remotely anything new, at all.
 
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Grand Vol said:
If Trump can keep his yap shut and bring the same message he did last night, he'll bring in the centrist and possibly even some Bernie supporters. You think Republicans dislike Hillary? I think those feeling the Bern hate her even worse.
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Bernie supporters might vote for the guy that is everything Bernie was fighting against?

I don't see any candidate that will bring in conservative, centrist, and Bernie supporters.
 
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TheDeeble said:
Bernie supporters might vote for the guy that is everything Bernie was fighting against?

I don't see any candidate that will bring in conservative, centrist, and Bernie supporters.
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A lot of Bernie supporters love Johnson.
 
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UTCVol said:
He is the only candidate who gives a damn about civil liberties, so it isn't surprising he would get some support from Bernie fans.
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He would still take more from Trump than from Clinton...either way the country gets screwed
 
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VolnJC said:
He would still take more from Trump than from Clinton...either way the country gets screwed
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Could always play out differently when the election comes, but right now he's drawing from both relatively evenly. I would wager some Bernie supporters might vote Green as well, and that party has no crossover appeal to the right like the libertarians do the left.
 
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TheDeeble said:
Bernie supporters might vote for the guy that is everything Bernie was fighting against?

I don't see any candidate that will bring in conservative, centrist, and Bernie supporters.
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I said some, not a lot. Maybe 10 to 15% at most, but that's a decent number. Remember, Trump is the outsider in all this, just like Bernie is/was. Voting on sheer principle for the outsider isn't a feeling that's specific to the GOP.

I do agree with others that Johnson might pull in some Bernie supporters as well. Again, it's about Hillary trying to please each and every voter in the center and far left. She won't accomplish that and it will show. Hell, look at her quick reversal on the coal mining business. And the beating she took over that. Now apply that to a general election with groups that are as far apart politically as you can get.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I said some, not a lot. Maybe 10 to 15% at most, but that's a decent number. Remember, Trump is the outsider in all this, just like Bernie is/was. Voting on sheer principle for the outsider isn't a feeling that's specific to the GOP.
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That'd be like Cruz supporters voting for Hillary out of spite. Isn't there some liberal outsider they can vote for? Or still write in Bernie?

Honestly I'd be surprised if 0.5% of Bernie supporters voted for Trump.
 
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TheDeeble said:
That'd be like Cruz supporters voting for Hillary out of spite. Isn't there some liberal outsider they can vote for? Or still write in Bernie?

Honestly I'd be surprised if 0.5% of Bernie supporters voted for Trump.
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Depends on how he sells it.

You doubt anything that will or won't happen in this election cycle?
 
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