NFLDraftScout 2016 Mock Draft - Marquez North

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volfan607 said:
I refuse to believe Pearson ran a 4.8. I ran. 4.5 in high school and I'm an average white guy. He appeared to have more burst than that... Or so I thought.
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It explains why he had a problem with separation. I think Tredwell was clocked around that time but he's taller, fights harder for the ball, has softer hands, and blew people alway in college.
 
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KBVol said:
Can't be right....D4H has him going no later than the 4th rd, maybe even the 3rd.

Do hope he gets drafted and going to the Pats would be great for him.
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Best place almost anyone can be drafted. If there's any potential there as an NFL receiver, the Pats will pull it out of him
 
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Would any of you guys draft Marquez North? I know that I wouldn't. Minimal production on the field. The measurables are impressive, but that's not enough.
 
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08Vol said:
And both those pics were busts, Calico was due to a hamstring injury he could never fully recover from tho
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More than a hamstring, wasn't it? Didn't he blow out his knees following a Roy Williams horse collar tackle his second season? I could have sworn he suffered an ACL injury.
 
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KBVol said:
6'0", 185 lbs, ran 4.8. Can't see him getting drafted. Kinda cruel though given that he was so much more productive than Marquez the last 2 years. Just don't see how Von translates to the NFL while North looks like an NFL WR prototype.
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He seriously ran a 4.8? I find that hard to believe. I don't even know how he was playing D1 receiver at that number.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Would any of you guys draft Marquez North? I know that I wouldn't. Minimal production on the field. The measurables are impressive, but that's not enough.
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Other than Sterling Shepard, this WR class is nothing but question marks. I would draft North just because there are no better options.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Would any of you guys draft Marquez North? I know that I wouldn't. Minimal production on the field. The measurables are impressive, but that's not enough.
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I would definitely take him later. Marquez was on a very strong course as a true freshman on a crappy team in a man's league. He made a lot of tough plays. Injuries have hampered him there part two seasons. Plus our offense has been led by questionable passers running for their lives behind Swiss cheese OLs. When the offense began to work, it was a spread based running attack mainly. Plus, North was totally out when the winning streak /stat-padding 2nd half came and went. A lot of negative factors outside his play kept his production down.

Perfect sleeper pick IMO. Someone's gonna take a risk and be rewarded IMO. If he can get healthy for a while.

Oh, now I'll get back to my day job.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Teams have drafted guys earlier with even less accomplishments.

Remember WR Tyrone Calico?

Titans drafted him in the 2nd round from Tennessee State eventhough he couldn't catch a football. All because he was 6'4" and ran a 4.33 40 at the combine.

A few years later the Titans drafted that one RB from Arizona in the 2nd round that no one had going in the 3rd round let alone the 2nd because he was 230 lbs and ran a 4.4 40.

I just remember these picks cause I used to follow the Titans closely. I'm sure other teams have reached for questionable guys with tantalizing physical traits.
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Calico had less accomplishments? He didn't miss a game in college and had 120 more catches and 2,000 more yards than North. I'm not sure I see the comparison.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Teams have drafted guys earlier with even less accomplishments.

Remember WR Tyrone Calico?

Titans drafted him in the 2nd round from Tennessee State eventhough he couldn't catch a football. All because he was 6'4" and ran a 4.33 40 at the combine.

A few years later the Titans drafted that one RB from Arizona in the 2nd round that no one had going in the 3rd round let alone the 2nd because he was 230 lbs and ran a 4.4 40.

I just remember these picks cause I used to follow the Titans closely. I'm sure other teams have reached for questionable guys with tantalizing physical traits.
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It should be noted that Calico's 194 career catches would be 11 more than the all time receiving leader in UT history. Different conference, I'm aware. But he did produce in college.
 
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livefaith said:
I would definitely take him later. Marquez was on a very strong course as a true freshman on a crappy team in a man's league. He made a lot of tough plays. Injuries have hampered him there part two seasons. Plus our offense has been led by questionable passers running for their lives behind Swiss cheese OLs. When the offense began to work, it was a spread based running attack mainly. Plus, North was totally out when the winning streak /stat-padding 2nd half came and went. A lot of negative factors outside his play kept his production down.

Perfect sleeper pick IMO. Someone's gonna take a risk and be rewarded IMO. If he can get healthy for a while.

Oh, now I'll get back to my day job.
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Great points. If healthy he could be a real contributor. But that's also a huge if.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I'm honestly more interested to see if Randolph did enough to get himself drafted.
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Me too - Randolph produced for 4+ seasons and his pro day was a grand slam walk off. I'm not understanding why Randolph isn't the 1st Vol drafted; fast, strong, durable except for the one knee injury 2 years back, good character, competitor, studious. The perceived knock on him was too slow and that's been put to bed.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
4th round or earlier to be exact.

Don't want you running around here acting like you won if he gets picked in the 3rd round.
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It's not a contest brother. It's just another brick in the wall of your waning credibility. You said "4th round, book it"....however, if he goes earlier, like in the 3rd round, you still "win"....got it.
 
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VonVol said:
It should be noted that Calico's 194 career catches would be 11 more than the all time receiving leader in UT history. Different conference, I'm aware. But he did produce in college.
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Hey, those are stats, and stats have no place here .... (Unless they support an argument I'm making for Dobbs).

-D4H
 
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KBVol said:
It's not a contest brother. It's just another brick in the wall of your waning credibility. You said "4th round, book it"....however, if he goes earlier, like in the 3rd round, you still "win"....got it.
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Slow down, KB. When did he have credibility?
 
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Another knock on Randolph was some bad tackling angles but our defense almost always did better with him out there so that is somewhat refuted. North has had back issues (per reports) and if I were a GM I would run if that is the case at such a young age. Really hate it for the guy as I have been rooting for him.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Other than Sterling Shepard, this WR class is nothing but question marks. I would draft North just because there are no better options.
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You got a question about Treadwell? I don't, and I don't care what 40 time he ran. That kid is polished and talented. I hope he's still around at 15 and the Titans get him. He'll be a test case for guys who don't put up great combine numbers but go on to have long, productive, even spectacular NFL careers....think Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Bolden for examples.
 
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If North gets drafted and makes a roster, he may have made the right decision. If not, he will have made a dumb decision.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Teams have drafted guys earlier with even less accomplishments.

Remember WR Tyrone Calico?

Titans drafted him in the 2nd round from Tennessee State eventhough he couldn't catch a football. All because he was 6'4" and ran a 4.33 40 at the combine.

A few years later the Titans drafted that one RB from Arizona in the 2nd round that no one had going in the 3rd round let alone the 2nd because he was 230 lbs and ran a 4.4 40.

I just remember these picks cause I used to follow the Titans closely. I'm sure other teams have reached for questionable guys with tantalizing physical traits.
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Well, if teams will reach for those guys and for North, who put up very good combine numbers despite a ton of injuries and putting up very poor production during his time at UT.....why wouldn't those guys also "reach" for a guy like Randolph, who put up ridiculous combine numbers , had 4 years of reliability, very good production and is a very smart, high character guy? Understanding that the other guys in his class in the draft at his position has a lot to do with it, he sure seems like less of a reach than Marquez.
 
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walkenvol said:
Me too - Randolph produced for 4+ seasons and his pro day was a grand slam walk off. I'm not understanding why Randolph isn't the 1st Vol drafted; fast, strong, durable except for the one knee injury 2 years back, good character, competitor, studious. The perceived knock on him was too slow and that's been put to bed.
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It makes no sense that he's been so overlooked. I just checked NFLDraftscout, and they dont even
have him in the Top 700 players!

I think he's a Top 10 safety, and his pro day performance will buy him a late round pick. Thats
a rare combination of speed and strength. I still cant believe he did 31 reps. Thats amazing.
 
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armchair said:
If North gets drafted and makes a roster, he may have made the right decision. If not, he will have made a dumb decision.
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Honestly, all he has to do is make a practice squad to be making 6 figures in short order. Still a good decision IMO since I believe he's certainly talented enough to at least do that.
 
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EZE said:
He seriously ran a 4.8? I find that hard to believe. I don't even know how he was playing D1 receiver at that number.
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That he ran a 4.8 and was pretty much a starter makes my head swim even more. And people wonder why we didn't throw the ball downfield more.
 
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