King Obama forgives student loans

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volinbham said:
it doesn't work that way and besides that's not what you posted. You implied it's okay to pass along people's information throughout all parts of the government since they were all part of the government.

you haven't a clue yet you keep posting.

most people would admit they were wrong and move on.
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It is ok if they waived their HIPPA rights. If not, then its not ok. Hope that clears it up for you if you were confused.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Who pays the taxes? Are you seriously this dense?
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People pay taxes. Just because people pay taxes does not mean anyone is punished by King Obama's loan forgiveness. Because people's tax rate are remain unchanged regardless of King Obama's loan forgiveness.
 
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RobsPics said:
People pay taxes. Just because people pay taxes does not mean anyone is punished by King Obama's loan forgiveness. Because people's tax rate are remain unchanged regardless of King Obama's loan forgiveness.
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Tax rate doesn't have a damn thing to do with it
 
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Guys you need to step your game up. There's a number of ways you can plausibly frame King Obama's loan forgiveness as a punishment. But none of you have identified it yet. Instead all I see are repeated ad hominems.
 
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RobsPics said:
If his tax rate did not increase, then it's more welfare covered by the same taxes...not more taxes. Thus, King Obama's loan forgiveness program did not punish him.



Your tax situation nothing to do with King Obama's loan forgiveness program. Because if you make more, then you would pay more taxes...REGARDLESS of whether King Obama implemented his loan forgiveness program. Thus, "IT" hasn't punished anyone.
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You continue to ignore the national debt issue, that my taxes go towards. Continuing to dig down further does punish me as it prolongs the time we are in this hole. They we are in the hole the worse it is for me, I have 50-60 years left, along time for this crap to accumulate. Raising taxes is only one way to look at punishment, and as I have stated this is increasing the amount my taxes are going towards to pay off.

Digging me deeper and deeper into a hole is indeed punishing me.
 
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RobsPics said:
Guys you need to step your game up. There's a number of ways you can plausibly frame King Obama's loan forgiveness as a punishment. But none of you have identified it yet. Instead all I see are repeated ad hominems.
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National fricking debt, numb nuts.

Also it's basic fricking psychology that to NOT give someone something while others get something is a form of punishment.
 
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LouderVol said:
You continue to ignore the national debt issue, that my taxes go towards. Continuing to dig down further does punish me as it prolongs the time we are in this hole. They we are in the hole the worse it is for me, I have 50-60 years left, along time for this crap to accumulate. Raising taxes is only one way to look at punishment, and as I have stated this is increasing the amount my taxes are going towards to pay off.

Digging me deeper and deeper into a hole is indeed punishing me.
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LouderVol said:
National fricking debt, numb nuts.

Also it's basic fricking psychology that to NOT give someone something while others get something is a form of punishment.
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Your "national debt as punishment" argument still presumes that your taxes will go down if there was less national debt. But the increase in national debt does not punish you, since your taxes remain the same regardless of the national debt. The national debt increases every year. But that has no effect on your tax rate.
 
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RobsPics said:
Your "national debt as punishment" argument still presumes that your taxes will go down if there was less national debt. But the increase in national debt does not punish you, since your taxes remain the same regardless of the national debt. The national debt increases every year. But that has no effect on your tax rate.
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lifestyle dude. move past the freaking taxes. If America gets nuked my life style gets flushed down the toilet, it may not effect my tax rate, but my life would suck.

lets look at it this way, imagine that in paying our taxes we are "buying" a product. The United States. Now in a free market I could choose to "spend" my taxes elsewhere, but here I am in America "buying" America. America is a product I use and depend on everyday. Everything America does as a product reflects on its value to me. So as it accumulates debt, the value of the overall product, America, diminishes. How you ask? imagine again, if you can, what would happen if our nations credit rating took a hit. that would directly effect me. so anything risking the value of the product that is America is a "punishment", no it isn't a tax rate (really don't know why you are sticking with the tax troll crap) but it directly effects me in a negative manner, aka punishment.
 
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LouderVol said:
lifestyle dude. move past the freaking taxes. If America gets nuked my life style gets flushed down the toilet, it may not effect my tax rate, but my life would suck.

lets look at it this way, imagine that in paying our taxes we are "buying" a product. The United States. Now in a free market I could choose to "spend" my taxes elsewhere, but here I am in America "buying" America. America is a product I use and depend on everyday. Everything America does as a product reflects on its value to me. So as it accumulates debt, the value of the overall product, America, diminishes. How you ask? imagine again, if you can, what would happen if our nations credit rating took a hit. that would directly effect me. so anything risking the value of the product that is America is a "punishment", no it isn't a tax rate (really don't know why you are sticking with the tax troll crap) but it directly effects me in a negative manner, aka punishment.
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Stfu
 
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LouderVol said:
lifestyle dude. move past the freaking taxes. If America gets nuked my life style gets flushed down the toilet, it may not effect my tax rate, but my life would suck.

lets look at it this way, imagine that in paying our taxes we are "buying" a product. The United States. Now in a free market I could choose to "spend" my taxes elsewhere, but here I am in America "buying" America. America is a product I use and depend on everyday. Everything America does as a product reflects on its value to me. So as it accumulates debt, the value of the overall product, America, diminishes. How you ask? imagine again, if you can, what would happen if our nations credit rating took a hit. that would directly effect me. so anything risking the value of the product that is America is a "punishment", no it isn't a tax rate (really don't know why you are sticking with the tax troll crap) but it directly effects me in a negative manner, aka punishment.
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For your argument to work, not only would one have to "imagine" a fantasy, one would also need to speculate that King Obama's loan forgiveness program directly decreases the Nation's credit rating

So even if the Nation's negative credit rating directly punishes you, you are merely speculating that King Obama's loan forgiveness program negatively affects the Nation's credit rating. So do you have any proof that King Obama's loan forgiveness program negatively affects this Nation's credit rating?
 
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