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It's scary to have someone who attracts so many bigots, puts nazis in the background of his tweets, tweets out completely made up stats claiming the majority of white people are killed by black people, had to fire a staffer for using the N word on social media,

(the really scary part) who wants to limit free speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and censor the Internet.

I don't go as far as you do with Trump in claiming him a "fascist" and even a "Nazi" (or Nazi-esque), but I certainly agree he expresses some very troubling ideas, as incoherent and ill-formulated as they tend to be. Honestly, I often don't think he gives a lot of thought to some of the things he says at times, like his comments basically suggesting he would support curtailing First Amendment rights. I think he just says them to look tough to his authoritarian supporters, who are under the delusion they somehow are the champions of freedom, yet doesn't consider their actual implications (just like his supporters) as he's saying them.

Still, pretty troubling.
 
You believe me to be a Trump apologist?

Not generally, no. But in this specific case, yes, you appear to be.

Look, Trump attracts hooligans, many of whom tend to be racists. That images that appear to be from the 60s would come from his rallies shouldn't shock anyone.
 
When has he wanted to censor any of those? And are you incapable of having a discussion without saying "Obama does that too!"? Is this how you pick your candidate, by voting for the person closest to Obama?

he attracts racist and has associated himself with radicals. I did not and will not vote for Trump
 
Correct. Any day they have food clean water and no one is trying to kill them is a good day. We have people in this country who live like kings compared to 3/4 of the world yet are depressed or have some other 1st world mental illness.

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Perhaps not Obama himself, but it has been done by that Administration.

White House's Fox News Boycott Attempt Prompts Network Revolt [UPDATED]

But it still doesn't address the issue with trump. I know you're not a trump supporter, but when you have all the different racial incidents followed by claims by trump himself that he would limit religious freedom, free speech, freedom of the press, and even the 4th amendment,

There's plenty of valid reasons why people should be truly afraid of a trump presidency.
 
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This article seems to claim that it wasn't actually done and that Fox News was complaining about nothing. Which is typical of Fox News.

Other than Josh Earnest directly stating it was on the table?

"This White House has demonstrated our willingness to exclude Fox News from newsmaking interviews, but yesterday we did not," said White House spokesman Josh Earnest
 
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When has he wanted to censor any of those? And are you incapable of having a discussion without saying "Obama does that too!"? Is this how you pick your candidate, by voting for the person closest to Obama?

That's why having political discussions are pretty much pointless most of the time, because both side usually just end up saying "NA-UH, YOUR GUY DID THIS!!"

Nobody will ever criticize their own anymore, it's always just point out the other guys did something else.
 
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That's why having political discussions are pretty much pointless most of the time, because both side usually just end up saying "NA-UH, YOUR GUY DID THIS!!"

Nobody will ever criticize their own anymore, it's always just point out the other guys did something else.

Agreed. They will say "but this person does it too!". And then they don't understand why some of us opt for third parties
 
Fact: Images from Trump rallies could double as images from the Civil Rights Era.

Fact: Trump attracts more racists and bigots than any other candidate.

Fact: Trump attracts people willing to resort to physical violence for their politics.

False: Trump wants us to return to the pre-Civil Rights Era and to actually subjugate black people.



Time the f out. You are a professor at an institution of higher learning and you think the issues you stated above are facts? Jesus.

Not one of them is a fact. Not one.
 
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I also think that with two highly unpopular and polarizing candidates this year (Hillary and Trump) you will see a massive upswing in third party votes. Trump may actually make America great again by helping the libertarian party rise due to his unpopularity.
 
Time the f out. You are a professor at an institution of higher learning and you think the issues you stated above are facts? Jesus.

Not one of them is a fact. Not one.

I think him attracting people willing to resort to physical violence is an indisputable fact. You could argue that he's not the only candidate like that, but that doesn't make it any less of a fact.
 
He, Septic the ultra lib

Awesome.

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