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n_huffhines said:
But they also pay into education budgets.
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Illegal immigrants provide a miniscule amount to education budgets. Rental of low rent properties with two or more families in the property. Then you have to take the additional cost of bilingual teachers so the kids can be taught in the language they understand.
 
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Well, about those Trump supporters lol

Beck slams Trump supporters, Breitbart boss, compares both to Nazis | Fox News

Conservative talk show host Glenn Beck slammed Donald Trump’s supporters Wednesday on his radio show as “vile” and likened them to Nazis – while accusing Breitbart Chairman Stephen Bannon of doing Trump’s bidding, comparing him to Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels.

On his show, Beck accused Trump of dividing the country and “grooming brownshirts,” while describing many of the Trump supporters he encountered Tuesday as “beyond recognition as anything I’ve ever seen — rude, vile, nasty.”

But he reserved his most fiery comments for Bannon, claiming his Breitbart news blog site is promoting Trump’s “lies.”
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Grand Vol said:
Well, about those Trump supporters lol

Beck slams Trump supporters, Breitbart boss, compares both to Nazis | Fox News

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Conservative talk show host Glenn Beck slammed Donald Trump’s supporters Wednesday on his radio show as “vile” and likened them to Nazis – while accusing Breitbart Chairman Stephen Bannon of doing Trump’s bidding, comparing him to Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels.

On his show, Beck accused Trump of dividing the country and “grooming brownshirts,” while describing many of the Trump supporters he encountered Tuesday as “beyond recognition as anything I’ve ever seen — rude, vile, nasty.”

But he reserved his most fiery comments for Bannon, claiming his Breitbart news blog site is promoting Trump’s “lies.”
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lol, Beck

Still tumbling down the rabbit hole, no end in sight
 
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KentheOrange said:
Illegal immigrants provide a miniscule amount to education budgets. Rental of low rent properties with two or more families in the property. Then you have to take the additional cost of bilingual teachers so the kids can be taught in the language they understand.
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This is not the norm. Very few live like that. There are plenty of situations where men are here working, living 5-8 to a house and sending $ home to their families in Mexico, but the only people living 2 families to a home are in transition.

I worked with the Spanish speaking population all over Nashville and I met thousands of people at their homes. The families that have been here long enough to have multiple anchor babies now in K-12 tend to have very American living situations.
 
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hog88 said:
I'm sure you can prove this, right?
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Nobody can prove it one way or another. It's a good question. If anybody thinks they know, they are full of ****.

Veronique de Rugy is a very smart economist and she makes a great case here for more immigration, if people are interested.

No Skills? No Problem! - Reason.com
 
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Danl said:
Just put him in touch with one of those Nigerian princes. They're always trying to give away big bucks.
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I wonder if I should forward all my spam email to the Cruz campaign...

And I can forward all my gun parts and sales emails to the Hillary campaign.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I've already addressed this.
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If you have then I missed it. I've seen you discredit a couple of other articles, but not this one. This appears to be very specific on how the information was gathered, and how much illegal immigrants are getting in terms of benefits. I was expecting a little more beyond a casual brush off.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
If you have then I missed it. I've seen you discredit a couple of other articles, but not this one. This appears to be very specific on how the information was gathered, and how much illegal immigrants are getting in terms of benefits. I was expecting a little more beyond a casual brush off.
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The chart is from a hate group for starters.

Secondly all of the claims are absurd, and only you and Trump (who enjoys tweeting racists made up stats) would believe it. It claims 51% receive Medicaid? Do you really believe that? Apparently we have a lot of grannies jumping the border. And 22% are on food stamps (which they don't qualify for under federal or state guidelines). It's all false proganda from a known hate group
 
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Vol8188 said:
None of you have shown that outside of free education and hospital services, that they receive anything
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Free education to the tune of $10-12k per child per year? Throw in the free breakfasts and lunches and the number grows. Hospital services aren't free either......and most rational thinking individuals consider hospital services health care.
 
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Vol8188 said:
The chart is from a hate group for starters.

Secondly all of the claims are absurd, and only you and Trump (who enjoys tweeting racists made up stats) would believe it. It claims 51% receive Medicaid? Do you really believe that? Apparently we have a lot of grannies jumping the border. And 22% are on food stamps (which they don't qualify for under federal or state guidelines). It's all false proganda from a known hate group
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Here's what my research shows on Steven Camarota, who is the Director of Research for the Center for Immigration Studies. I guess it would be common practice for the Census Bureau to hire an "immigration hater" as the lead researcher on said subject.

In recent years Dr. Camarota has testified before Congress more than any other non-government expert on the economic and fiscal impact of immigration. In addition, he was the lead researcher on a contract with the Census Bureau examining the quality of immigrant data in the American Community Survey.

Dr. Camarota’s research has been featured on the front pages of The New York Times, The Washington Post, and USA Today as well as numerous other media outlets. His academic articles have been published for journals, including the Public Interest and Social Science Quarterly. He has also written general interest pieces for such publications as the Chicago Tribune and National Review. His analysis and commentary are frequently heard on radio and television news programs including CNN, MSNBC, Fox News Channel, NBC Nightly News, and ABC World News Tonight, CBS Evening News, National Public Radio, and NewsHour on PBS.
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So what's your evidence that he is a hater? Or, is that just how you dismiss information that doesn't support your viewpoint?
 
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Report: Every Deported Illegal Household Saves Taxpayers More than $700,000 - Breitbart

Illegal migrants cost U.S. taxpayers a net total of nearly $100 billion annually, concluded a 2010 investigation by the Federation for American Immigration Reform.

The 2010 report calculated the total contributions (mainly taxes) generated by the illegal migrants, and then subtracted the cost of taxpayer aid to those migrants. The aid includes education, subsidized housing, food stamps, tax credits, medical expenses. Overall, the report found illegal migrants cost taxpayers a total of $113 billion a year. The report then “accounts for taxes paid by illegal aliens [which is] about $13 billion a year, resulting in a net cost to taxpayers of about $100 billion.”
 
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n_huffhines said:
This is not the norm. Very few live like that. There are plenty of situations where men are here working, living 5-8 to a house and sending $ home to their families in Mexico, but the only people living 2 families to a home are in transition.

I worked with the Spanish speaking population all over Nashville and I met thousands of people at their homes. The families that have been here long enough to have multiple anchor babies now in K-12 tend to have very American living situations.
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You worked with thousands of illegals in Nashville? You think they are the norm? Even if you did see a couple of thousand illegals, which I doubt, that is a very small percentage of the 30 million+ illegals in country. Parkland hospital (Dallas County) had an average of 30 illegals giving birth a day for fiscal 2006. Dallas county taxpayers paid for every one of those anchor babies. A friend had a house about a block and a half from her that had 5 families living in it. Really helped property values.
 
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hog88 said:
If Ike would have met with Ho Chi Min things might have been different also. He did come to us first.
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It was President Truman who refused to talk with Ho Chi Minh and recognize the Democratic Republic of Vietnam after the end of the Japanese occupation of Vietnam.
 
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KentheOrange said:
You worked with thousands of illegals in Nashville? You think they are the norm? Even if you did see a couple of thousand illegals, which I doubt, that is a very small percentage of the 30 million+ illegals in country. Parkland hospital (Dallas County) had an average of 30 illegals giving birth a day for fiscal 2006. Dallas county taxpayers paid for every one of those anchor babies. A friend had a house about a block and a half from her that had 5 families living in it. Really helped property values.
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Giving birth to a baby costs $15k minimum not including follow up visits
 
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KentheOrange said:
You worked with thousands of illegals in Nashville? You think they are the norm? Even if you did see a couple of thousand illegals, which I doubt, that is a very small percentage of the 30 million+ illegals in country. Parkland hospital (Dallas County) had an average of 30 illegals giving birth a day for fiscal 2006. Dallas county taxpayers paid for every one of those anchor babies. A friend had a house about a block and a half from her that had 5 families living in it. Really helped property values.
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30 million?

It was definitely more than a few thousand. It was 80-hour weeks for 2 years (full time church service). I knew 500 just from the flock and I spent most of my time trying to meet strangers.
 
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