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mrorange211 said:
I get that, but don't we also have a moral obligation to protect the integrity of our voting process?



Now this is a problem if indeed true and reminiscent of Selma, 1965.
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Have people state their name, date of birth, address and social. If they get 3 out of 4, then allow them to vote (incase of typographical errors).

Would that not protect the process without disenfranching voters?
 
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Vol8188 said:
Have people state their name, date of birth, address and social. If they get 3 out of 4, then allow them to vote (incase of typographical errors).

Would that not protect the process without disenfranching voters?
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I think this could possibly be an option that would both satisfy my desire to keep the integrity of the voting process, while not excluding others, yes.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Getting an ID can be very difficult. Those places are almost never open. In one state (Wisconsin I believe) they're literally only open on the fifth Wednesday of the month (so they're open less than 12 times a year, probably less than 9).
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Present both SS card and photo ID. Not having a photo ID of any kind is hard to imagine in today's world. Those who do not have a photo ID, well, probably shouldn't be voting.
 
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tennvols77 said:
Pretty easy thing to lie about.
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How many peoples socials, date of birth, and address do you know? You'd also have to know if they were registered to vote and in what precinct. On top of that you'd have to know that they do not plan on voting.

That's not an easy amount of information to get.
 
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Vol8188 said:
How many peoples socials, date of birth, and address do you know? You'd also have to know if they were registered to vote and in what precinct. On top of that you'd have to know that they do not plan on voting.

That's not an easy amount of information to get.
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This isn't the question that is really relevant imo. The question is how many socials, date of birth, and address would either the Dem's or the Pub's have access to which they could then provide to others?
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
This isn't the question that is really relevant imo. The question is how many socials, date of birth, and address would either the Dem's or the Pub's have access to which they could then provide to others?
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Why would Hilary's campaign manager have your social?
 
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UTCVol said:
That is the risk the Dems are taking, but it's still no excuse for holding ID on a stick just out of their reach like some states have tried to do.

At the same time, the integrity of elections is vitally important and I have no problem with voter ID requirements in theory - but it should be as accessible as possible, and right now it isn't in some places.
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Where?
 
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Vol8188 said:
Have people state their name, date of birth, address and social. If they get 3 out of 4, then allow them to vote (incase of typographical errors).

Would that not protect the process without disenfranching voters?
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What if they don't know their social? I would bet that there are more people who don't know their ss than not have an ID.
 
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Vol8188 said:
If dead people are voting that wouldn't be hard to track like you claimed. But you'd have to know their name. You'd have to know their address. And you'd have know they were registered to vote.

Wouldn't a better answer be to simply ask for someone's social and date of birth before they birth?
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It shouldn't be hard to track, but it is. It shouldn't be hard to get a photo ID either, but apparently that is racist and places an undue burden on the poor. It is funny that people can magically come up with one when it is needed at the liquor store though. I think that it is much easier to commit voter fraud than it is to commit welfare fraud or Social Security fraud, and there are people that have PhDs in that kind of criminal activity.
 
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hog88 said:
That might be a little tough.

Hell, I'm all for making people show a photo ID and dip their finger in ink so they can't go to another location. But I am also in favor of having elections over a two-three day period, a Thursday - Saturday deal to make it easier.
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With absentee voting we essentially have that now.
 
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hog88 said:
Got examples of disenfranchisement?
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A lot of these laws haven't actually went into effect yet, but estimated disenfranchisement for most states is 100,000 or more depending on population. I can link some of those if that's what you'd like
 
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hog88 said:
What if they don't know their social? I would bet that there are more people who don't know their ss than not have an ID.
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If they can provide date of birth, full name, and address I'm alright with that. Add a secret question if you really want to.
 
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