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SamRebel35 said:
For those of us not in the loop, what the hell is all this talke about Dave Hart's war against women? What did he do to the Lady Vols? What happened to women in the athletic department? Did "Bama Dave" personally woman bash all these women? Why is he the scapegoat?
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I'm no more "in the loop" than you for sure. But I think he's talking about Hart trying to take the Lady out of Lady Vols.?? I don't really know. Seems like there were a lot of disputes about that awhile ago. I don't even follow lady vol stuff. I typically scroll pretty fast down the page when the conversation moves that direction.

I just thought it was interesting that he seems to think this recent bad press is related to that somehow. I figured he wasn't alone in those thoughts.

I'm not convinced that Hart needs to be fired. But this is a bad look for his athletic department.

Is there a point where somebody is at fault here?
 
#10,952
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That's fair. Peyton just seems like the kind of guy that would be more interested in his reputation (if he truly did nothing of the sort) than money.
 
#10,953
#10,953
Can Peyton even respond to this BS? Every time he does she sues so not sure if there is something in settlement that neither is to speak on it. However I think we all probably know who sent the documents to the guy that is white and pretends he is black
 
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KnoxVillain said:
Sure, she could...but it's pretty clear Manning did more than moon the girl from across the locker room. Regardless...would you want Mannings dick and balls anywhere near your face? I, for one, wouldn't...but maybe you are more fond of him than I am?
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good Lord this post is an example of how bad VN can get. Where on earth did I even insinuate that she should be fine with whatever he did?
 
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KnoxVillain said:
You know what teabagging is, right? You know what mooning is I imagine. You acknowledge that these are two very different things? The report says that he made physical contact with her with his genitals? One act is considered harmless fun while the other can be construed as sexual assault (bs or not). Just give it a rest.
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Clay travis tweeted out documents that said the womens story the first go around was no physical contact was made

Her story changed years later per him today
 
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Aesius said:
I just think it's lame that one mistake, even one that happened 20 years ago, is enough to character assassinate someone--and that so many people lap it up.

The world is full of bitter, vindictive people who love nothing more than to watch successful people fail. That's the only way to explain the amount of traction that stories like this get.

By all accounts, Peyton is and has been an excellent role model throughout his time in the NFL. Donates countless time and money to charity and goes out of his way to help people and respond to fans. But one incident in his past makes him a total scumbag who should be erased from history, apparently.
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So Jameis Winston gets a pass now from you all as well too right? I know he was dogged on this board like crazy. Lol

SN: I do think this is ridiculous trying to go after something that long ago as well.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
So Jameis Winston gets a pass now from you all as well too right? I know he was dogged on this board like crazy. Lol

SN: I do think this is ridiculous trying to go after something that long ago as well.
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Winston had multiple slips ups. It sounds like he has finally learned though after the last one. It's just amazing all these folks are trying to make this mooning crap 20 yrs define Peyton. He has a laundry list of things he has done to help others that he doesn't even shout to the roof tops. They are picking on someone that actually does a lot of good out there and that is sad to see
 
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VAVolsFan2009 said:
The original incident is the mistake of a kid. Bad judgement. Take blame, say you're sorry, do your punishment, and move on. It's a maturity issue. The aspect that concerns me is the systematic attempts to destroy the victim's reputation and career. If the details in the article are correct, there is a substantial character issue with the Mannings. And why would they feel the need to even address her in the book. This part has got me rethinking the whole situation. I have always been a Peyton fan so this is really troubling.
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Maybe because he knows what really happened. It's hard for me to believe there are substantial character issues with the Mannings when there are many, many stories about what Peyton has done for people and about letters and calls that he has made. Going above and beyond usually doesn't mean you have a character issue.
 
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KnoxVillain said:
Why wouldn't Peyton have fought it in court if all he really had done was mooned the girl? Counter-sued for defamation? It doesn't really matter at this point. I think more signs point to him doing it than not, but he's paid his dues literally and figuratively.
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I mentioned this a few days ago. Defamation is protected in litigation. Lawsuits give you more latitude because it would really restrict the judicial system otherwise.

I am not clear on the timeline on everything and how many times this came up, but there are other reasons why you decide to settle even though you may not have done what the other party alleges. Ask Paula Deen about being deposed. Something that had occurred years ago. I am not condoning it; just that depositions and legal discovery can open up a can of worms.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
The Breakerboy said:
So Jameis Winston gets a pass now from you all as well too right? I know he was dogged on this board like crazy. Lol

SN: I do think this is ridiculous trying to go after something that long ago as well.[/QUOTE

Winston had multiple slips ups. It sounds like he has finally learned though after the last one. It's just amazing all these folks are trying to make this mooning crap 20 yrs define Peyton. He has a laundry list of things he has done to help others that he doesn't even shout to the roof tops. They are picking on someone that actually does a lot of good out there and that is sad to see
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The "mooning" isn't the issue. It's the aftermath that has been alleged that is the big issue. Cover-up, reputation assassination, etc.
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vol72 said:
VolsnCards5 said:
It appears that this is nothing more than a money grab and/or character assassination. Why has it taken twenty years to get to this point?
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She's not suing this time.

The incident is being used as evidence that there is a culture of sexual assault and "look the other way" on campus.

Peyton's stuff got brought back to the forefront by King as a race issue.
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