2016 Election

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No. I'm not going to do something for you when you can do it yourself. As a republican, I would think you would be all for that.

Ok, I cede you the point sir. You are correct harmful speech is limited by prosecution/civil liability. But otherwise as long as speech isn't harmful or libelous there are no limitations.

So now lets apply the same standard to firearms, no limitations but harmful use is prosecuted or taken up civilly.
 
What's crazy is that hispanics are actually a very conservative people. Hispanics in Florida is what won Bush the election in 2000. It's just insane because this is the new demographic the Reps should try their best to appeal to the most; it wouldn't even be that hard. It's almost like the Reps are trying to do exactly what will guarantee them a loss in Nov and every other foreseeable presidential election in the future.

Aren't most of what are wrongfully labeled Hispanic in FL Ricans or Cubans? Why in hell would they support illegal immigration?
 
One of the biggest lies in American politics today is the notion that being against illegal immigration is the same thing as being xenophobic against all Hispanics.

The far left has to preach that Republicans hate:
Mexicans
Gays
Women
Blacks
The poor

And the media will always help them spread these lies
 
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Interesting ARG poll out of NH:

Trump: 27
Kasich: 20
Rubio: 10
Cruz: 9
Christie: 9
Bush: 8
Paul: 5

If Kasich is beating him by that wide of a margin in NH, Christie has no chance. Rubio in serious trouble as well.

New Hampshire Polling Averages (by RealClearPolitics)

Donald Trump: 30.4%
Marco Rubio: 14.2%
John Kasich: 11.2%
Ted Cruz: 11%
Chris Christie: 9.2%
Jeb Bush: 8.4%

And the guy that has accurately predicted the last 4 elections has

FiveThirtyEight Model

Donald Trump: 39%
Marco Rubio: 21%
Ted Cruz: 13%
John Kasich: 11%
 
There is way more diversity of thoughts/beliefs in the R party than there is in the far left socialist party we call democrats. JFK would not be allowed in todays democrat party

There is diversity in both parties. The problem isn't diversity; it's the general shift away from the center of both parties. The moderates of both parties (JFK as you point out) are being left behind.
 
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Barry Goldwater lamented that the GOP was being taken over by the religious right, and he was completely correct. It helped win elections a few decades ago but in this era of shifting demographics it has locked the party into a no-win situation as conservatism has become synonymous with moral superiority in the name of religion. They either lose at least some of the reliable voting bloc of evangelicals or keep them at the expense of attracting new voters.

Trump is the first time in a while we've seen a populist movement gain so much steam in the GOP. He has no political principles whatsoever, and is probably the most liberal candidate on the GOP side on most issues, but he has found popularity because people are sick of the status quo and really don't like how traditional America has come under fire. It's kind of a watershed moment, but I think things may get worse before they get better. The party just has no unifying vision and anyone who deviates from the alpha "true conservative" prototype even by a little is mocked and derided. Imagine if Reagan ran today - Trump supporters would be calling him an establishment stooge.

Yep. It's going to be interesting to watch the evolution of the GOP in coming years.

My guess is that a fiscal crisis will eventually break the back/stranglehold of social conservatism on the GOP. When that will happen is up in the air though.
 
What's crazy is that hispanics are actually a very conservative people. Hispanics in Florida is what won Bush the election in 2000. It's just insane because this is the new demographic the Reps should try their best to appeal to the most; it wouldn't even be that hard. It's almost like the Reps are trying to do exactly what will guarantee them a loss in Nov and every other foreseeable presidential election in the future.

Short-term vs long-term goals. Democrats have been way more strategic than Republicans.
 
There is diversity in both parties. The problem isn't diversity; it's the general shift away from the center of both parties. The moderates of both parties (JFK as you point out) are being left behind.

Yet the GOP continues to nominate moderates, where the Dems nominate far left candidates.
 
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Yet the GOP continues to nominate moderates, where the Dems nominate far left candidates.

That is a candidate problem, not a reflection of constituency. The GOP wasn't, except for Skins, exciting about the prospect of Romney. He ended up the nominee due to the weakness of the other candidates and the conservatives cannibalizing their own.
 
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Sarah Palin just endorsed Trump. That woman is like political AIDS to a campaign.

I'd like to think Cruz paid her to endorse Trump; but considering she's an attention whore, it doesn't surprise me the so-called "Tea Party conservative" endorses the not conservative one.
 
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