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Darth_Shiveman said:
I don't mean offense by this and am not trying to be a smart aleck, but your opinion and fan opions on Locker coming out of college doesn't/didn't matter. Experts all expected him to be taken in the first 40 picks. All of the professionals who spend their whole year watching film, breaking down every NFL's roster for needs, and spending hundreds of hours weighing all of this information to predict where a player will be drafted expected him to go early.

It's easy to say that you could tell he had 3rd round talent, but the fact of the matter is that QB is the most important position in the NFL (so their value is often a little inflated compared to their talent) and that a LOT of teams wanted QBs that year. The top two tiers of QBs in that draft had about 5-7 guys and there were even more teams than that who desperately needed a QB.

That's a big reason why all the professionals had him projected as a top 40 pick. No experts or GMs expected anything different. More goes into a draft projection than each player's talent level. If that was all there was to it, it would be really easy to peg the first 50-60 picks every year.

Edit: "I changed doesn't mean squat" to "doesn't matter" because it came off as more standoff-ish than I meant.
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He had a very low wonderlic for a QB, I'm surprised he was projected top 40 and then taken top 12 with that
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I don't mean offense by this and am not trying to be a smart aleck, but your opinion and fan opions on Locker coming out of college doesn't/didn't matter. Experts all expected him to be taken in the first 40 picks. All of the professionals who spend their whole year watching film, breaking down every NFL's roster for needs, and spending hundreds of hours weighing all of this information to predict where a player will be drafted expected him to go early.

It's easy to say that you could tell he had 3rd round talent, but the fact of the matter is that QB is the most important position in the NFL (so their value is often a little inflated compared to their talent) and that a LOT of teams wanted QBs that year. The top two tiers of QBs in that draft had about 5-7 guys and there were even more teams than that who desperately needed a QB.

That's a big reason why all the professionals had him projected as a top 40 pick. No experts or GMs expected anything different. More goes into a draft projection than each player's talent level. If that was all there was to it, it would be really easy to peg the first 50-60 picks every year.

Edit: "I changed doesn't mean squat" to "doesn't matter" because it came off as more standoff-ish than I meant.
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My point was, how did all the supposed "experts" get it so wrong when so many average fans could see it so easily? Relative to past, successful 1st round picks, Locker had tons of interceptions, tons of incompletions, not very many yards, and not very many TD, and all that paired with mediocre defenses they played against. Just because qb is an important position doesn't mean you should throw away picks on sub par players who play that position.
 
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Agree. Locker was a bad pick. I'm not a big Titans fan at all, no big deal that they lose all the time. The organization has been a joke for a long time. Until the team sells it will only remain in the cellar or almost get to 8-8 seasons. Last dynamic player was Chris Johnson. Mariota has a chance if he can survive the OL. There's no real threat on offense and hasn't been in a long time. Drafting has been awful over the years. The organization is a wash. Needs to be sold now. I wish the FedEx guy in Memphis would buy them. I don't go to games, but feel sorry for my friends and fans that buy season tickets to watch this abysmal team play..
 
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MockingVol said:
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jave36 said:
It's so crazy how average fans can see that a lot of first round picks are just awful, but people who make millions can't.

Locker? Really?
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Which is exactly why the front office is in greater need of an overhaul than the team, though it's close.

It's arguably top 3 worst in the NFL. Top picks that bust, FA's that are given millions and bust, head coaches that bust, the list goes on...and on...and on.

Munch should have never been the HC here, they should have hired someone else and begged and pleaded with him to stay on and whomever they chose as HC (likely to bust, anyway) to stay as OL coach.

That being said, they probably would have screwed that up too...

Sigh...
 
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orangeblood79 said:
Which is exactly why the front office is in greater need of an overhaul than the team, though it's close.

It's arguably top 3 worst in the NFL. Top picks that bust, FA's that are given millions and bust, head coaches that bust, the list goes on...and on...and on.

Munch should have never been the HC here, they should have hired someone else and begged and pleaded with him to stay on and whomever they chose as HC (likely to bust, anyway) to stay as OL coach.

That being said, they probably would have screwed that up too...

Sigh...
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If fans really want change. Boycott the games. That's all Amy Adams cares about is ticket sells. Empty stadium will cause a big uproar.
 
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