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Vol8188 said:
First off: that's not really relevant. But I'm still in the reserves.

Secondly: these were our mistakes. We supplied them with weapons! We destabilized Libya, Syria, and Iraq.

US foreign policy is 100% to blame.
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blah blah blah

more touchy feely crapola.

right is right, and wrong is wrong. Killing innocent people to further a religious agenda is about as wrong as it gets. The mooslims, and the mooslims alone are to blame.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
blah blah blah

more touchy feely crapola.

right is right, and wrong is wrong. Killing innocent people to further a religious agenda is about as wrong as it gets. The mooslims, and the mooslims alone are to blame.
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I can name a lot of Christians (Hillary, Bush, Chaney, McCain, Lindsey Graham, Rubio) who armed these Muslims, but you wouldn't listen anyway because you're not intelligent enough to counter anything I say.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I can name a lot of Christians (Hillary, Bush, Chaney, McCain, Lindsey Graham, Rubio) who armed these Muslims, but you wouldn't listen anyway because you're not intelligent enough to counter anything I say.
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I am still waiting for you to say something intelligent and worthy of a response. And that is not really the point anyway. None of that matters at this point. We have a huge mess that needs to be dealt with and blame for ancient who did what is counterproductive. The current POS has the controls. It is all up to him and I am not going to hold my breath. You can go on blaming GWB all you want, but that is a retarded argument. BHO has the reins. It is his turn to do something besides hide under his bed.

And what the hell does being "Christian" have to do with any of this?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I am still waiting for you to say something intelligent and worthy of a response. And that is not really the point anyway. None of that matters at this point. We have a huge mess that needs to be dealt with and blame for ancient who did what is counterproductive. The current POS has the controls. It is all up to him and I am not going to hold my breath. You can go on blaming GWB all you want, but that is a retarded argument. BHO has the reins. It is his turn to do something besides hide under his bed.

And what the hell does being "Christian" have to do with any of this?
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You're truly all over the place. I never once said Obama had no blame in this. I even included him (I'm really starting to wonder if you can read). And yes, what caused this current situation is very important.

I'll only support putting American troops on the ground in Syria if Obama, Bush, Hillary, McCain, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, and Dick Chaney are on the front line. Because their policies are 100% responsible for this.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Thanks for that Gramps, but I do not feel like I really served since I was in during peacetime. I really don't even feel like I have the 'right' to render a salute during the National Anthem at Neyland as a former military member. But I do appreciate the sentiment.
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Peacetime or wartime you served your country. Serving during peacetime, you were trained and prepared to go to a battlefield at anytime. You earned the respect and the right to render that salute at Neyland

:hi:
 
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Gramps said:
Peacetime or wartime you served your country. Serving during peacetime, you were trained and prepared to go to a battlefield at anytime. You earned the respect and the right to render that salute at Neyland

:hi:
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Again, thank you sir, but I do not feel right in doing it. I'll just stick with my hand over my heart.
 
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Hilarious that there is not one post about the Democratic debate within the thread or the political forum (that I've seen). Seems lost across all media and among the masses.

I didn't watch either. Just an observation.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Hilarious that there is not one post about the Democratic debate within the thread or the political forum (that I've seen). Seems lost across all media and among the masses.

I didn't watch either. Just an observation.
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True. But there are real world things going on. Everyone knows where they stand anyway.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Hilarious that there is not one post about the Democratic debate within the thread or the political forum (that I've seen). Seems lost across all media and among the masses.

I didn't watch either. Just an observation.
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I'm curious as to what the numbers will be and how they compare to the gop debates.
 
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tumscalcium said:
True. But there are real world things going on. Everyone knows where they stand anyway.
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I can understand the unexpected events in the world such as the Paris attacks not to affect scheduling since the debates tend to have a lot coordination prior to...

But a debate on a Saturday during football season? Now I know they are communists bent on the destruction of our way of life.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Hilarious that there is not one post about the Democratic debate within the thread or the political forum (that I've seen). Seems lost across all media and among the masses.

I didn't watch either. Just an observation.
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I posted a comment in the Paris thread about the Dem debate.
 
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Just think what the muslims are gonna do when the day comes, and it will, that oil is not the primary fuel on the planet.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Hilarious that there is not one post about the Democratic debate within the thread or the political forum (that I've seen). Seems lost across all media and among the masses.

I didn't watch either. Just an observation.
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Basically Loony Bern said terrorism wouldnt exist as it does today if the USA didnt invade Iraq..which is him saying that muslims need to be ruled by ruthless dictators to keep them in check. He's actually right on that one.
 
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Vol8188 said:
If we were to overthrow the government of Alabama and give some good ole Christian hate groups that already exist there half a billion dollars in weapons, I wonder what he thinks would happen?
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Pretty sure they already have a half billion dollars worth of weapons.

The worst that could happen is they would cure some liberalism here and there.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Hilarious that there is not one post about the Democratic debate within the thread or the political forum (that I've seen). Seems lost across all media and among the masses.

I didn't watch either. Just an observation.
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During college football night? Those aholes planned it that way knowing only hardcore leftists like LG would watch or record on their DVR for future spank bank material. How many times can you say free shlt and the GOP is racist?
 
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Grand Vol said:
I can understand the unexpected events in the world such as the Paris attacks not to affect scheduling since the debates tend to have a lot coordination prior to...

But a debate on a Saturday during football season? Now I know they are communists bent on the destruction of our way of life.
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Having a debate on the weekend period makes no sense nowadays.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Just think what the muslims are gonna do when the day comes, and it will, that oil is not the primary fuel on the planet.
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Then what would be backing the USD? The Saudis and other Arabs play along with scheme to only sell oil in USD (for right now).

That will have an affect on us when that day comes, as well...
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Basically Loony Bern said terrorism wouldnt exist as it does today if the USA didnt invade Iraq..which is him saying that muslims need to be ruled by ruthless dictators to keep them in check. He's actually right on that one.
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Well, the Germans bombed the Lusitania... we went to war with Germany.

The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor... we went to war with Japan.

19 Saudis attacked the Twin Towers on 9/11... we invade Afghanistan and Iraq.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Well, the Germans bombed the Lusitania... we went to war with Germany. Nation State, although it was two years later we declared war

The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor... we went to war with Japan. Nation State after receiving a declaration of war more or less

19 Saudis attacked the Twin Towers on 9/11... we invade Afghanistan and Iraq.Ideology based attack where the attackers came from many different nations
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I've told you before, the national origin of the attackers has little to do with their ideology. The 1993 WTC attackers were: Kuwaiti (staunch ally of ours), Egyptian (until recent times, a fairly reliable ally of ours), Jordan or possibly Palestinian (West Bank, so could be either), Iraqi (at the time an enemy) and being funded by either a man of Pakistani or Kuwaiti decent.

Or the USS Cole which was masterminded by a man of Yemeni decent and carried out by Yemeni nationals.

And the Khobar Towers bombing which was masterminded by several Saudis and with Lebanese help. All of which fled Saudi Arabia soon after the bombing.

These are just incidents prior to the 9/11 attacks that followed no national guidance and had no borders. Afghanistan and Iraq both provided bases of operation for these groups. As did Libya. So while wanting to implicate the Saudi nation for promoting terrorism, where are the bases of operation for these groups?

It's a huge difference in a nation state declaring war on us or attacking our interests and a group without borders doing it.
 
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