Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXII

[engineerVOL]

Lol. I wonder if Bray even has any friends left on the team. Maybe Kyler, Mack, and Jackson?

Maybe they had a bottle-throwing distance contest 🙄

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

So some of Missouri's faculty are now walking out.

My initial thought was that protesting to get the chancellor to resign is a stupid idea. It doesn't solve the problems that are being complained of. It's like taking pepto bismal to treat cancer.

However, the number of people close to the situation who are siding with the protestors makes me wonder about this guy.

If this many prominent people are joining in, then he will be forced out soon, and this will be resolved quickly.

 

[engineerVOL]

Here's the rest of the story...

@patrickbrownTFP: Butch elaborates on his "tightening up the locker room at home" comment, says they may trim how many players dress, which is case on road.

@John_BriceVQ: . @UTCoachJones says injured players, players not playing just need to respect the guys that are playing & needs to get locked in. #Vols

@Volquest_Paul: "I've talked to 10 head coaches this morning.." About focus in the locker room.

 

[snowvols]

So some of Missouri's faculty are now walking out.

My initial thought was that protesting to get the chancellor to resign is a stupid idea. It doesn't solve the problems that are being complained of. It's like taking pepto bismal to treat cancer.

However, the number of people close to the situation who are siding with the protestors makes me wonder about this guy.

Missouri Tigers player says team not united over practice boycott

Still not sure what the President of the University system of Missouri is supposed to do about an unknown person drawing a swastika in poop.

I had no doubt that some faculty would be walking out as well, this is what they have trained for and agitated for their entire lives.

Did anyone see the picture of the Thomas Jefferson statue covered in post its? The group also wants that removed.

 

[SamRebel35]

Hurd kind of look better versus Bama than Fournette. He wore the Tide down. Fournette didn't punish them at all.

This is exactly what I was thinking. Hurd was a monster against probably the best front 7 in football.

 

[C-town Vol]

If you live your life reporting and hanging on the feelings and thoughts of 18-22 year olds then you are signing up for a rather chaotic experience.

Jalen Hurd is a great player and as frustrating as the play calling is to watch, it must be far more to run when it's your career/health on the line. I wouldn't be surprised if Jalen said it. Saying it and meaning it are two different things though.

^^^^This exactly
He is a kid. He may look like a grown man but he is 19-20 years old. I imagine that a LOT of players think about transferring. I deal with college kids who are always wondering if their life would be better in a different situation. My guess is, almost every player on the roster has had a stretch where they have thought about transferring. When things are tough, most humans have thoughts of doing something different or changing locations. That doesn't mean it will happen.

Is Hurd frustrated? Probably. The OL is the walking wounded and they weren't exactly dominant when healthy. His peers (Chubb, Henry, Fournette) have gotten more notoriety in different systems. That would make a guy wonder. Not to mention, he just played on one of the worst turfs in college football this past Saturday. I felt like Hurd, at times this week, was VERY tentative trying to not blow out his knee on that horrible field.

side note: I am sitting in a waiting room getting my oil changed. Two "musicians" are loudly talking about the Nashville life and how cool they are that they have had a couple of albums produced. One of the most pretentious conversations I have ever been privileged to hear...haha...only in Nashville.

 

[engineerVOL]

Dobbs: "I wasn't banged up."
Butch: "Dobbs was banged up."

Dobbs: "We let our foot off the pedal."
Kerbyson: "I don't think we let our foot off the pedal."

Lol, nice to see we are all singing off the same sheet of music.

 

[UTJoe]

Missouri Tigers player says team not united over practice boycott

Still not sure what the President of the University system of Missouri is supposed to do about an unknown person drawing a swastika in poop.

I had no doubt that some faculty would be walking out as well, this is what they have trained for and agitated for their entire lives.

Did anyone see the picture of the Thomas Jefferson statue covered in post its? The group also wants that removed.

Who was the target of the swastika? Do we know, or did someone just take exception to it and decide to express his opinion?

By it being made of poop, did that make the swastika mean more of what a swastika stands for, or was it a way to degrade the meaning of a swastika?

A few years ago there was a cross or crucifix that an artist made of the same material that got the defenders of the cross very much up in arms. We're not seeing /hearing that in this case, are we?

 

[butchna]

Dobbs: "I wasn't banged up."
Butch: "Dobbs was banged up."

Dobbs: "We let our foot off the pedal."
Kerbyson: "I don't think we let our foot off the pedal."

Lol, nice to see we are all singing off the same sheet of music.

Ahh! People just talk and yack like crazy people...for example on here.

 

[snowvols]

Who was the target of the swastika? Do we know, or did someone just take exception to it and decide to express his opinion?

By it being made of poop, did that make the swastika mean more of what a swastika stands for, or was it a way to degrade the meaning of a swastika?

A few years ago there was a cross or crucifix that an artist made of the same material that got the defenders of the cross very much up in arms. We're not seeing /hearing that in this case, are we?

Yeah, if it was a Cross or Star of David made of Poop I would think it being made of poop would be an insult.

 

[NMVol]

Who was the target of the swastika? Do we know, or did someone just take exception to it and decide to express his opinion?

By it being made of poop, did that make the swastika mean more of what a swastika stands for, or was it a way to degrade the meaning of a swastika?

A few years ago there was a cross or crucifix that an artist made of the same material that got the defenders of the cross very much up in arms. We're not seeing /hearing that in this case, are we?

The political/racial tension is piqued in Missouri after over a year of conflict in Ferguson. The inaction in the face of the swastika incident appears to be symbolic of a kind of acceptance when there is a valid issue that the status quo is not working. The undercurrents are real. I hope a solution can be found.

 

[Catbone]

The political/racial tension is piqued in Missouri after over a year of conflict in Ferguson. The inaction in the face of the swastika incident appears to be symbolic of a kind of acceptance when there is a valid issue that the status quo is not working. The undercurrents are real. I hope a solution can be found.

Inaction? What the heck is Wolfe supposed to do?! How does it even relate to black people??

 

[JCP201]

I am not buying the Jalen stuff. Frustration, maybe, transfer/leaving, no. If there is anyone Butch will make for sure stays, it's Jalen Hurd. Hell Butch invited Jalen to butch's birthday dinner.. he won't let him leave

Whenever I've heard Butch speak, he has always makes sure to mentioned Hurd's running back play and blocking..

 

[74volz]

^^^^This exactly
He is a kid. He may look like a grown man but he is 19-20 years old. I imagine that a LOT of players think about transferring. I deal with college kids who are always wondering if their life would be better in a different situation. My guess is, almost every player on the roster has had a stretch where they have thought about transferring. When things are tough, most humans have thoughts of doing something different or changing locations. That doesn't mean it will happen.

Is Hurd frustrated? Probably. The OL is the walking wounded and they weren't exactly dominant when healthy. His peers (Chubb, Henry, Fournette) have gotten more notoriety in different systems. That would make a guy wonder. Not to mention, he just played on one of the worst turfs in college football this past Saturday. I felt like Hurd, at times this week, was VERY tentative trying to not blow out his knee on that horrible field.

side note: I am sitting in a waiting room getting my oil changed. Two "musicians" are loudly talking about the Nashville life and how cool they are that they have had a couple of albums produced. One of the most pretentious conversations I have ever been privileged to hear...haha...only in Nashville.

Yep. Live here in Nashville. It's agonizing the crap type of music, majority country or bro country, that keeps getting pumped out. The "musicians", which they're not to me, and the pretentiousness has been getting out of control for years. Nashville is nothing like it used to be. And it's only going to get worse. Everybody keeps moving here...

 

[WinginFlorida]

Who was the target of the swastika? Do we know, or did someone just take exception to it and decide to express his opinion?

I haven't read anything much beyond what has been posted here, but it seems to me the "target" is the key bit of information that is missing. The protest is gaining traction, so something significant has yet to become public knowledge.

Should it simply be a protest over someone doing something distasteful and incredibly stupid, these guys may never play another game. There's a lot of stupid in this world, so they're going to be really busy for a long time to come...

 

[volssam]

Perhaps the pushing of the liberal/social justice/political correctness mindset by university leaders over the past few decades is turning around to bite them now?

Or maybe this event will be isolated?

But in today's societal/cultural climate, it's hard to see this not spreading to other campuses if/when Missouri gives in to the demands

 

[orangefreak21]

All the Hurd talk is just BS to me. He's the cornerstone of this team, he's Butch's guy. Right? I mean I get being upset w performance, that's a good thing. Always wanna do better.

But to say he wants to transfer or any kinda crap like that, not buying it.

Also, no matter the system, if you can play football the NFL will find you. There have been plenty of backs that come from all systems in the NFL.

 

[Aesius]

Yep. Live here in Nashville. It's agonizing the crap type of music, majority country or bro country, that keeps getting pumped out. The "musicians", which they're not to me, and the pretentiousness has been getting out of control for years. Nashville is nothing like it used to be. And it's only going to get worse. Everybody keeps moving here...

I'm done with Nashville as of next summer. I love the city but hate what it is becoming. The housing prices and daily gridlock aren't at all compatible with what is essentially a 4th or 5th tier city.

 

[engineerVOL]

Inaction? What the heck is Wolfe supposed to do?! How does it even relate to black people??

I think they are just leveraging this incident because of other incidents (for instance the presidents parade car marginally struck a protestor at the homecoming parade, a drunk fool was spewing racist remarks at a black meeting of some sort, all were met with no discipline/response so they say).

 

[snowvols]

The political/racial tension is piqued in Missouri after over a year of conflict in Ferguson. The inaction in the face of the swastika incident appears to be symbolic of a kind of acceptance when there is a valid issue that the status quo is not working. The undercurrents are real. I hope a solution can be found.

Where was the inaction? They are making all students undergo diversity training, and this was prior to the boycott. Beyond that what would you have him do?

 

[engineerVOL]

I'm done with Nashville as of next summer. I love the city but hate what it is becoming. The housing prices and daily gridlock aren't at all compatible with what is essentially a 4th or 5th tier city.

Well, bye.

Haha, in all seriousness Nashville grossly lacks infrastructure, namely highways. I've visited Indianapolis and Charlotte recently and was so impressed with the infrastructure when compared to Nashville.

The common denominator: state income tax.

Fair trade to me! 😊

 

[NMVol]

Where was the inaction? They are making all students undergo diversity training, and this was prior to the boycott. Beyond that what would you have him do?

That's a legitimate question. My sense is that there is a sentiment that the reaction to the "swastika" issue should have been surgical and intolerant. Whether this is realistic is another question.

 

[volssam]

The Missouri president has now resigned.


On the bright side, we should get to watch our Vols on Nov 21! Unless the country burns to the ground before then. Ha

 

[Lovesomebigorange]

Was there a problem in the locker room pregame? Or is Butch trying to prevent it becoming a big party and players losing focus?

 

[GoBigOrangeVols]

Have y'all seen what the cops did in Tuscaloosa? #fratlivesmatter