Ukraine II: The Fight Against Russian Aggression

The thread title and content of the story do indeed match... unless you think war-gaming a possible war with Russia in The Baltics is a good idea.

You really don't have a clue about military planning, do you? Drawing up theoretical war plans based on real world scenarios has been happening since before Alexander the Great.

You should actually take comfort in the fact the US is losing in these scenarios. It's a good hedge against doing something really stupid.
 
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You should actually take comfort in the fact the US is losing in these scenarios. It's a good hedge against doing something really stupid.

These madmen don't care. They'll turn over the table and risk it all on trying to win a 1st strike nuke war.
 
You really don't have a clue about military planning, do you? Drawing up theoretical war plans based on real world scenarios has been happening since before Alexander the Great.

What vital US interest is being threatened in The Baltics?
 
Then why haven't they?

Oh, he's going to post that obscure article about the alleged secret governement that wants to initiate a nuclear war. Although the motives aren't quite so clear.

What he won't tell you is the study is from the 1950s.
 
Official tries to explain the journalist fiasco.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ0Vj3xzZus[/youtube]
 
Regardless of what the author implies, I think it's been established that a US financed and conspired coup threw Ukraine into disarray. Russia reacted to this.

Only people that are completely in denial still refute this..

Russia "reacted"? By invading? Good defense.
 
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WTF? Moby was in on it too?
 
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Good grief. Guess thousands of posts in the other thread aren't enough for this silliness. Let's start another thread!
 
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Russia "reacted"? By invading? Good defense.

I'm sure America would've turned a blind eye if the roles were reversed, right!?

Sure, I'm without a doubt that Russia helped prop up the Luhansk and Donetsk militia, but they did not invade.

The idiots running Ukraine wouldn't be in Kiev now had Russia "invaded".
 
I love how the current liberal, US-led world order (that's been in place since the end of WWII) is deconstructed and torn apart by its detractors as if there's some sort of utopian alternative that existed before and can exist again or can finally be found.

Utopia? What, the pre-US led order? If memory serves correctly, that order led to a major war every decade, culminating in the two world wars.

Meanwhile, collectively, the world gets wealthier and great-power conflict is avoided.

I'm not quite sure what all the yelling is about. Sounds like mere penis envy to me.
 
So the DNR leadership has said that if Ukraine starts taking steps to join NATO they will "liberate" the rest of Donbas. If we accept for a moment that DNR is a sovereign country, why should they have a right to intervene in the sovereign affairs of their neighbor?
 
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