Ukraine II: The Fight Against Russian Aggression

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Velo Vol said:
There's an RT documentary getting to the truth of MH17? How did I miss that?
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Wonder if they'll ever go and do a revised edition that tries to explain why Russia vetoed the proposed tribunal, given all the proof they have.

For a nation that's suddenly been rendered tribunal happy, what with calls in the Duma for international tribunals on the US for its bombing of Japan and its conduct in Vietnam, among other things, one would thing Russia would naturally be interested in another tribunal on what will surely prove to be US involvement in the shootdown. Guess not though.
 
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Speaking of the Duma, only a country with that buffoonish bunch of clowns leading it could manage to barely squeeze ahead of Italy in GDP. With all that land and population, those resources, and, well at least until we kicked their asses (yet again) in the Space Race, potential technological capacity?

It boggles the mind. You have to be a special kind of dumb to wreck something like that so greatly.

But, Russians should take some pride at least in their Duma. If China, a country that has nearly 15 percent of the world's population alone, had the population size of Russia, its economy, despite all its recent successes, would probably be the size of Panama's.

So the Russkies at least have that going for them. And their govt. didn't have to whore them out like the CCP did with the Chinese either. Although both obviously had to give up on their respective millennialist philosophical visions, minus the authoritarianism. That, at least, remains firm.
 
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LouderVol said:
i guess they don't care about starving people. seriously, confiscate it and give it to the homeless/orphanages or to another country. I guess Putin's mom never talked to him about the starving kids in India.
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What else would you expect from a government and leadership that have barely managed to take all of what Russia has and is capable of only to turn it into Italy? I expect Vlad the Great has made quite a few billionaires out of his inner-circle. Russians are too mistrusting of the West to ever realize this.

All Russians know is the lash - brute force and rhetoric. Humanitarianism is a foreign word, even when it can be used to still promote their propaganda.

The Mongols never quite made it back to Mongolia.
 
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volprof said:
You honestly still think a Ukrainian pilot shot down MH17, don't you?

This, despite Russia's veto of a tribunal on the downing. Well, despite all the evidence it has to prove its case, perhaps Russia just wants to protect the Ukrainian pilot in question. One wonders, though, how this Ukrainian pilot got on Russia's good side while Russia holds another Ukrainian pilot illegally for a year for political purposes.
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Its pretty obvious to those who dont stroke the American agenda that ALL evidence points to a Ukrainian plane shooting it down.

Your self proclamation of backing up ANYTHING America, shows everyone that you can't look at things in a unbiased and logical way.

There are many links showing the BULLET holes in the cockpit...
 
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Pacer92 said:
Its pretty obvious to those who dont stroke the American agenda that ALL evidence points to a Ukrainian plane shooting it down.

Your self proclamation of backing up ANYTHING America, shows everyone that you can't look at things in a unbiased and logical way.

There are many links showing the BULLET holes in the cockpit...
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is this the damage we saw in that "picture" you had?

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and remember my picture is of a military target designed with protection and armor in mind. your picture was a civilian airliner. and somehow more damage was done on the military target by the same rounds?
 
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An American "poor person" is to a Russian "poor person" what a whale shark is to a minnow. One is overweight, carries the latest iPhone (including a plethora of app downloads), and gets HBO, while the other is skinny (like a normal poor person) and lives in a hovel with no indoor plumbing much less the E Channel.

If I were going to be a poor person, I would be a poor person in America. Bad thing is, that's not going to last forever. The coffers are running thin.

Speaking of massive economic trends that most people never give much thought to until it directly affects them:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-the-soviet-union-made-the-world-more-wooded/
 
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Velo Vol said:
Peter Jennings died 10 years ago.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/08/business/media/peter-jennings-urbane-news-anchor-dies-at-67.html
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Thanks for sharing this. I knew it had been a while but did not know the exact date.

For me, growing up, Peter Jennings was a god. He loomed over me as a child, emanating from the soft glow of a thirty minute analog interface. I can still remember watching his last sign-off and can still remember the hurt.

For better or for worse, I have him and the other members of the Big 3 (but mostly him) to thank for realizing how big the world truly is and for developing that early curiosity. So the world has him to both appreciate and despise for this particular deed.

I don't know much about him and his personal life, nor do these concern me, but no one has ever done his job any better than Peter Jennings. He was simply magnificent.
 
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Fast Times at Russian High:

Complacent public opinion is rapidly growing hostile to free speech. On Monday the pro-Kremlin polling center VTSIOM reported that nearly half—49 percent—of Russians welcomed Internet censorship.

The Kremlin’s officials seem satisfied as they look out of their vehicle windows and live in their own parallel world.

On Monday, Russian media discussed the $65,000 watch on the wrist of President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman, Dmitry Peskov. Why would a top official demonstratively mock his poor countrymen with such a bauble when millions live on less than $500 a month? And for good measure Peskov’s 17-year-old daughter, Yelizaveta, told the online publication gazeta.ru she plans to reside in France.
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Russia Slides Back to the Middle Ages - The Daily Beast
 
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Pacer92 said:
Its pretty obvious to those who dont stroke the American agenda that ALL evidence points to a Ukrainian plane shooting it down.

Your self proclamation of backing up ANYTHING America, shows everyone that you can't look at things in a unbiased and logical way.

There are many links showing the BULLET holes in the cockpit...
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I'll ask you as neatly and politely as I possibly can (picture me as a dainty little girl straightening out her dress):

Why do you think Russia vetoed the international tribunal? Russian magnanimity? Fears that Russia would be unduly and unfairly convicted by a US-dominated tribunal?

Inquiring dainty little skirts want to know.
 
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volprof said:
I don't know much about him and his personal life, nor do these concern me, but no one has ever done his job any better than Peter Jennings. He was simply magnificent.
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If you want to learn more or get nostalgic.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hoo_SoyQoI[/youtube]

He was my favorite news presenter
 
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I actually watched almost all of that (to show my news nerd cred). Found myself wanting to watch more of some of the news reports.

Anyway, tying this to the thread, they were talking about News Years on the millennium and happened to show Red Square. Someone made a comment about things being hopeful in Russia now, with all the changes it was undergoing.

Sadly, it has mostly been going backwards since then.
 
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Litvinenko posited this to be the case (Russian influence with ME terrorism) nearly a decade ago. Things didn't end up too well for him, obviously. (In fact, openly mocking good sense and international outrage, one of his killers now serves as a Russian MP. One of those "Only in Russia" kind of things.) As others, including Schindler, have written, there's evidently still a significant debate about al-Zawahiri's and other al-Qaeda bigwigs mysteriously baffling time in southern Russia and the North Caucasus back during the 90s. And these questions aren't just about whether or not it was to serve the Chechen cause.

By allowing and promoting the emigration of Islamists, Russian authorities achieve several aims. They clear the volatile North Caucasus of Islamists and reduce violence in the country. The export of militants to the Middle East also serves Russian foreign policy goals, most principally to cause as much volatility in the Middle East as possible in order to drive up oil prices. High oil prices are practically the only way for the current Russian regime to survive in the long run. What appears to be a widespread practice in Russia, “agent agreements” signed between the Russian security services and Islamist recruits amounts to the Russian state recruiting militants for militant organizations in the Middle East. This policy of creating problems for neighboring countries, while having an Islamic underground movement on Russia’s own territory, is likely to backfire sooner or later. Even though Russia temporarily “solves” its problem in the North Caucasus and creates headaches for others in the Middle East, this strategy is unlikely to lead to a long-term solution for either of these regions.
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I would add the most likely motives, if true, would have to also include a desire to further destabilize US foreign policy goals.

Bashar al-Assad has to be sitting in his Damascus palace right now wondering what in the hell he did wrong and why Russia now hates him so much. Well, Bashey Boy, you're pretty expendable and some things are more important than keeping up the dictatorship as far as the Russians are concerned.

Lastly, I'd like to add that, given Kadyrov's trending towards open hostility with the Kremlin and now this revelation, my official Volprof's Countdown to the Third Chechen War clock is moving closer and closer to midnight. As the US well knows (now, I hope at least), playing with fire can very well backfire and, indeed, often does.
 
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I'm not quite sure why the particular link for my above post will not work.

I've tried it again, and now it just takes you to a story about drones in Russia.

I'll just link the Russia military/security portal for that site.

Military/Security | The Jamestown Foundation

From there, you go to the second page, and the story should be at the top. A title dealing with Investigative Reports, Russian Security Services, Militants Fleeing...something to that effect.
 
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https://www.rt.com/politics/312041-duma-chief-blames-us-for/

Reading about this feller's exploits over the past year or two, I've gathered that he's basically the Russian version of John McCain. Which is to say, a normal Russian politician.

His argument here, in particular, doesn't even make sense. The US must loot other countries to control its national debt, yet its national debt keeps rising?

Doesn't even make...all **** it. Who cares.
 
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volprof said:
Bashar al-Assad has to be sitting in his Damascus palace right now wondering what in the hell he did wrong and why Russia now hates him so much. Well, Bashey Boy, you're pretty expendable and some things are more important than keeping up the dictatorship as far as the Russians are concerned.
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Right. That is at odds with the policy of propping up the Syrian government.
 
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volprof said:
Bashar al-Assad has to be sitting in his Damascus palace right now wondering what in the hell he did wrong and why Russia now hates him so much. Well, Bashey Boy, you're pretty expendable and some things are more important than keeping up the dictatorship as far as the Russians are concerned.
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It appears to me (and I have nothing to back it up) that Putin struck a deal a few months back. NATO stays hands off in Ukraine and in exchange Russia will not get involved in Syria.
 
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