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[Catbone]

I agree. Within 2 years ago, he was pro-choice and had several other liberal ideologies. Now, he's pro-life and he's full conservative. Please....

The only reason Trump is liked, is exactly what Carly Fiorina said in the debate the other night.

I think he'll flame out though.

I think if Fiorina isn't president, she would make an excellent VP.

 

[DaddyChad]

Seriously you can't trust a politician period. But we'll never agree, no biggie...

I think we agree more than you think. I'm just choosing what I believe is a different lesser of two evils. There are no good choices only the best of bad ones IMO.

 

[Catbone]

I think we agree more than you think. I'm just choosing what I believe is a different lesser of two evils. There are no good choices only the best of bad ones IMO.

Agreed. In my mind, 99.9% of political figures don't give a damn about anything but themselves. It's all about finding the one who is going to do the least amount of destruction to the USA.

 

[74volz]

I respectfully disagree with almost all of that. I don't care for the Republican leadership right now, as they are liars who pretend to oppose communist, I mean Democrat policies, but Ted Cruz and Walker are not crazy. They are a breathe of fresh air. Perception is everything I suppose. That class warfare BS is getting old, though. Democrats aren't rich, self serving, cronies but somehow all Republicans are? I don't think so. That is a recycled propaganda lie told to teenagers by old Marxist, former hippie teachers who themselves were taught to loathe their parents and bring about a Marxist revolution. I don't know how a self respecting American can continue to support a Godless, communist, hate normal America agenda of the Democrat party. That transcends economic status. Furthermore, while the economy is weak and I don't believe in "class" labels, I think you're about to find out how many "middle class" voters still exist in this country when they finally throw out the communist party. My children and grandchildren are going to have to pay for all the debts and misdeeds of our current and past leadership with their labor and/or their blood. It's my goal and our responsibility to limit that burden. Our children deserve better, and by better I don't mean more government programs.

Ted Cruz is the farthest thing from a breath of fresh air than ever. He's completely looney and even his constituents see that. He's one of the most hypocritical candidates out there. Walker is just as bad. Explain while this country was circling the drain left by Bush and the republicans that huge corporations and Wall Street got massive tax breaks and didn't have to pay billions in taxes that would've helped the economy from crashing? Republicans support the rich and not the middle class and especially the poor. That's been proven over and over again. That whole silly crap about my children and grand children will have to pay for everything when they're older is complete horses**t. And that's typical propaganda coming from the republican side. It's such a weak and pathetic argument. That should be least of your worries. No telling what this country will be like in 20-30 years, that's why that argument is lame. Sorry you don't believe in class labels, but that's exactly what this country was founded on and it continues today. And I'm sorry you see the president and current congress as communists. Pretty cynical out look..

 

[74volz]

I think we agree more than you think. I'm just choosing what I believe is a different lesser of two evils. There are no good choices only the best of bad ones IMO.

Probably so. I'm feeling there is going to be a massive shift with who gets elected. Can't really explain it. Just a huge change in the tides. I don't have a good feeling, but will always go with who is the best choice for the people. Obviously for all the classes..

 

[Catbone]

I'll probably get bashed but Tbh I'm 23 and have never voted. Until I see a candidate that actually is worth a damn I refuse to vote. They all suck

 

[KnoxVillain]

I'll probably get bashed but Tbh I'm 23 and have never voted. Until I see a candidate that actually is worth a damn I refuse to vote. They all suck

I'm in the same boat...I'm 24 and completely apathetic towards politics. They all lie and do what they want anyways. My vote doesn't matter.

 

[TriCitiesVol]

Yeah the Democrats have done so good in the past 8 years lol.

1. Cut the military big time by about 25%, I believe.

1a. Let ISIS run all over us. It's only a matter of time before it reaches American soil.

2. Turned his back on World Leaders.

3. No backbone to Putin

4. Immigration? What does that mean.... Let's just let anybody in the country

5. Let's let Mexico never pay for that wall. That would require initiative and backbone. Something this administration severely lacks.

6. Giving $300 million to countries for oil/gas. Not only do those countries hate us, they have beheaded Americans.

7. Keep giving money away to China.... In the trillions

8. Obamacare has been amazing. Great implementation

Oh but he killed Bin Laden and gasoline is now around $2.20 a gallon, so the President is doing a mighty fine job.

 

[scvolfan7]

Yeah the Democrats have done so good in the past 8 years lol.

1. Cut the military big time by about 25%, I believe.

1a. Let ISIS run all over us. It's only a matter of time before it reaches American soil.

2. Turned his back on World Leaders.

3. No backbone to Putin

4. Immigration? What does that mean.... Let's just let anybody in the country

5. Let's let Mexico never pay for that wall. That would require initiative and backbone. Something this administration severely lacks.

6. Giving $300 million to countries for oil/gas. Not only do those countries hate us, they have beheaded Americans.

7. Keep giving money away to China.... In the trillions

8. Obamacare has been amazing. Great implementation

Oh but he killed Bin Laden and gasoline is now around $2.20 a gallon, so the President is doing a mighty fine job.

I find it funny that when gas prices were high republicans blamed Obama yet now that they are low again they don't want to give him any credit and treat it like it's nothing. Though in reality it is nothing because the president has zero control over gas prices

 

[Glitch]

Can we get some soccer talk up in here?

 

[Mick]

Yeah the Democrats have done so good in the past 8 years lol.

1. Cut the military big time by about 25%, I believe.

1a. Let ISIS run all over us. It's only a matter of time before it reaches American soil.

2. Turned his back on World Leaders.

3. No backbone to Putin

4. Immigration? What does that mean.... Let's just let anybody in the country

5. Let's let Mexico never pay for that wall. That would require initiative and backbone. Something this administration severely lacks.

6. Giving $300 million to countries for oil/gas. Not only do those countries hate us, they have beheaded Americans.

7. Keep giving money away to China.... In the trillions

8. Obamacare has been amazing. Great implementation

Oh but he killed Bin Laden and gasoline is now around $2.20 a gallon, so the President is doing a mighty fine job.

Watch FOX Entertainment much?

 

[sigchig]

Can we get some soccer talk up in here?

 

[Catbone]

Can we get some soccer talk up in here?

I'd almost rather debate religion than talk soccer lol:

 

[TriCitiesVol]

Watch FOX Entertainment much?

What isn't the truth there?

*Fox News

If you're satisfied with Obama then lol. We can do a lot better.

 

[kmkemp11]

Yeah the Democrats have done so good in the past 8 years lol.

1. Cut the military big time by about 25%, I believe.

1a. Let ISIS run all over us. It's only a matter of time before it reaches American soil.

2. Turned his back on World Leaders.

3. No backbone to Putin

4. Immigration? What does that mean.... Let's just let anybody in the country

5. Let's let Mexico never pay for that wall. That would require initiative and backbone. Something this administration severely lacks.

6. Giving $300 million to countries for oil/gas. Not only do those countries hate us, they have beheaded Americans.

7. Keep giving money away to China.... In the trillions

8. Obamacare has been amazing. Great implementation

Oh but he killed Bin Laden and gasoline is now around $2.20 a gallon, so the President is doing a mighty fine job.

1. Amazing to me that Republicans are so concerned with military cuts, yet constantly want to talk about deficits.

3. I'm sorry, backbone is a generic term that could mean anything. What, specifically should Obama do and how would that be an improvement?

4-5. What is your ideal immigration policy? What should we do about the illegals already here?

7. Not sure to what you're referring. We have a debt to many countries, China among them. Are you suggesting we shouldn't pay our debts? How would you balance the budget without crippling our economy? Austerity is not the answer and apparently you oppose cuts to our largest expenditure (military).

8. Well, Obama started with a much different plan, but that was opposed and changed hundreds of time in the Congress/Senate. But hey, let's talk Healthcare. What is your healthcare plan? How does it address the main factors that contribute to the enormous cost of healthcare while still at least maintaining our quality of care?

He also got us out of a huge recession, has made good on his promise to reduce the deficit after the initial jobs bills and quantitative easing costs came off of the books, and generally tried to follow through on most promises he made during his campaigns, which is a huge improvement from most politicians. Obviously, he's had some sore spots (drone policy, treatment to whistleblowers, NSA spying, etc), but you didn't mention any of those.

 

[Vols4us]

I definitely would rather debate religion than soccer, Cat! lol.

With facing various forms of adversity being the topic on here as well as with the football team - see if you find anything that can help in link. Timing is everything.

http://links.intouchministries.mkt4...r=ODcwMjQ1Nzk0MQS2&j=NjAwNjc4MjQ5S0&mt=1&rt=0

 

[Glitch]

1. Amazing to me that Republicans are so concerned with military cuts, yet constantly want to talk about deficits.

Considering the national defense is one of the few things that the federal government is supposed to actually do it stands to reason that defense spending should be one of the last things cut.

 

[Glitch]

I'd almost rather debate religion than talk soccer lol:

It is a close second that is for sure!

 

[74volz]

What isn't the truth there?

*Fox News

If you're satisfied with Obama then lol. We can do a lot better.

With who? What you listed was pretty lame. Isis was created by the lying of Bush starting a war in a country when his daddy didn't finish the job. You want more war and to spend trillions of dollars on it. Sure go ahead and vote republican. Ridiculous. Obama dug this country out of hole left by republicans. Millions of people have health insurance for the first time. What is the republican alternative to that? Unemployment is way down. He has not been perfect in a lot of ways. But that will never exist in any presidency. Nobody in the Republican Party running right now is any better, I see them as much worse. Sadly, nobody that great at all on the dem side either. This some pretty scary s**t going into next year...

 

[Vols4us]

1. Amazing to me that Republicans are so concerned with military cuts, yet constantly want to talk about deficits.

3. I'm sorry, backbone is a generic term that could mean anything. What, specifically should Obama do and how would that be an improvement?

4-5. What is your ideal immigration policy? What should we do about the illegals already here?

7. Not sure to what you're referring. We have a debt to many countries, China among them. Are you suggesting we shouldn't pay our debts? How would you balance the budget without crippling our economy? Austerity is not the answer and apparently you oppose cuts to our largest expenditure (military).

8. Well, Obama started with a much different plan, but that was opposed and changed hundreds of time in the Congress/Senate. But hey, let's talk Healthcare. What is your healthcare plan? How does it address the main factors that contribute to the enormous cost of healthcare while still at least maintaining our quality of care?

He also got us out of a huge recession, has made good on his promise to reduce the deficit after the initial jobs bills and quantitative easing costs came off of the books, and generally tried to follow through on most promises he made during his campaigns, which is a huge improvement from most politicians. Obviously, he's had some sore spots (drone policy, treatment to whistleblowers, NSA spying, etc), but you didn't mention any of those.

Although I have suggestions in response to your questions, the primary issue is the view of the role of the federal government in a republic - which is what our Constitution says we are - not what it has evolved into being without legal authorization. Until that is resolved and states are returned to their rightful standing within the nation as incubators for the whole nation; the issues will only become more numerous and worsen.

 

[Glitch]

With who? What you listed was pretty lame. Isis was created by the lying of Bush starting a war in a country when his daddy didn't finish the job. You want more war and to spend trillions of dollars on it. Sure go ahead and vote republican. Ridiculous. Obama dug this country out of hole left by republicans. Millions of people have health insurance for the first time. What is the republican alternative to that? Unemployment is way down. He has not been perfect in a lot of ways. But that will never exist in any presidency. Nobody in the Republican Party running right now is any better, I see them as much worse. Sadly, nobody that great at all on the dem side either. This some pretty scary s**t going into next year...

I am definitely independent but I am a firm believer in personal responsibility. The more the government is involved the worse off the people of this country will be. That being said I have no clue who I am going to vote for but I am not excited about anybody on either side right now.

 

[Vols4us]

Considering the national defense is one of the few things that the federal government is supposed to actually do it stands to reason that defense spending should be one of the last things cut.

AMEN! ACA, EPA, Common Core, etc. mean diddly if the nation is under siege and its existence threatened. I guess a nuclear Iran and the cyber war underway are also not real. Let's all hit the golf course with Barry for a few rounds.

 

[kmkemp11]

Considering the national defense is one of the few things that the federal government is supposed to actually do it stands to reason that defense spending should be one of the last things cut.

I do understand that a strong military is important and can even be a positive to the economy when applied properly. Still, degrees matter. How much do we need to keep us safe? If you go by our spending as the answer to that question, you would have no choice but to conclude that we're at constant threat of war with every superpower in the world. We spend more than (t least) this list of countries: China, Russia, Saudia Arabia, UK, France, Japan, India, Germany, South Korea. That's correct, the USA spends more on defense than the two most populous countries in the world and the next 7 COMBINED.

So yes, I think cutting the military is a good thing when you're running a deficit in the hundreds of billions.

 

[scvolfan7]

The Republicans are the ones shipping jobs and money to the Chinese so they can make as much money as possible. It's a lot cheaper to make stuff in Asia than it is here

 

[kmkemp11]

With who? What you listed was pretty lame. Isis was created by the lying of Bush starting a war in a country when his daddy didn't finish the job. You want more war and to spend trillions of dollars on it. Sure go ahead and vote republican. Ridiculous. Obama dug this country out of hole left by republicans. Millions of people have health insurance for the first time. What is the republican alternative to that? Unemployment is way down. He has not been perfect in a lot of ways. But that will never exist in any presidency. Nobody in the Republican Party running right now is any better, I see them as much worse. Sadly, nobody that great at all on the dem side either. This some pretty scary s**t going into next year...

FWIW I'm pretty anti-Hillary as well. I've been doing some research on Bernie Sanders though, and he seems pretty legit, although possibly too far left to win in the general election.