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Officer Encinia's boot must be rather tasty since you're coming back for more.

Changes nothing... Cop is still a scumbag for handling like he did. He should have gave her the ticket/warning and went in with his day. Instead he got his feelings hurt that she didn't bow to him like most do and escalated the situation from there. It's that simple. If you can't see that then you're either stupid or just choosing not to.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
Officer Encinia's boot must be rather tasty since you're coming back for more.

Changes nothing... Cop is still a scumbag for handling like he did. He should have gave her the ticket/warning and went in with his day. Instead he got his feelings hurt that she didn't bow to him like most do and escalated the situation from there. It's that simple. If you can't see that then you're either stupid or just choosing not to.
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Changing lanes without a blinker is worthy of the gas chamber
 
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apevol said:
What does that have to do with what I said?
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Absolutely nothing.


I just needed to say it, and you were the lucky one.
:)


I suspected drugs with her previous attempts at taking her own life. I've seen it before.
It's a dangerous mixture. Much like alcohol.
 
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Obsessed said:
Absolutely nothing.


I just needed to say it, and you were the lucky one.
:)


I suspected drugs with her previous attempts at taking her own life. I've seen it before.
It's a dangerous mixture. Much like alcohol.
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I thinks it's pretty far out there to believe there was foul play involved, considering what is currently known.
 
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stonevols said:
Autopsy of Sandra Bland Finds Injuries Consistent With Suicide, Prosecutor Says

An autopsy of Sandra Bland, who died in a Texas jail cell three days after a minor traffic stop, showed injuries that were consistent with suicide, and not with someone else having killed her, a prosecutor said Thursday.

Ms. Bland had as many as 30 cuts on her left forearm, some recently healed and scarred, and others scabbed, indicating that they were two to four weeks old, he said, and were consistent with being self-infliected.


Preliminary testing showed marijuana in her system, but he said the results of a more accurate test were still pending.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/24/u...istent-with-suicide-prosecutor-says.html?_r=0

marijuana..now we know we know why she didn't want to get out of the car
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All that means is she smoked within the last 45 days. They searched her car. If they had found pot in her car they would have released that immediately.

In other words, that has nothing to do with the traffic stop.
 
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Dr Dread said:
All that means is she smoked within the last 45 days. They searched her car. If they had found pot in her car they would have released that immediately.

In other words, that has nothing to do with the traffic stop.
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45 days?

Stretching it a little aren't we?

Pot stays in the system based on the amount of use and body fat the individual retains.

She didn't look obese to me.

Oh and the autopsy said she was high at the time of the arrest.
 
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RockVol said:
This is just speculation, and if it's way off base please correct me, but when the officer asked her if she was ok, maybe it was because she was acting weird due to being under the influence. If he noticed that she was high, wouldn't that have been a reasonable reason to ask her to step out of the vehicle?
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As the report says she was under the influence, the cop might have saved a life and this stop is actually a DUI which changes things no?

If that's the case, I'm not really sure how she can be defended.
 
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Biopsyman said:
Family will sue for profiling and win big.. The new jobs program by the Obama administration
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Their lawyer will try to make it a federal constitutional claim because the statute on that makes it eligible to recover fees on top.

They will lose that claim in summary judgment.

It will then be settled as a simple state law negligence claim, which is what it was.

I've seen the movie 100 times.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm with you on this one. I've not heard or read she was under the influence. She might have been but I don't think you can tell.
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I just read the article myself and it merely says she had it in her system but did not specify if she was under the influence but my point remains IF she was.
 
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utvols88 said:
I just read the article myself and it merely says she had it in her system but did not specify if she was under the influence but my point remains IF she was.
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It does not help her family's cause, but it's not a major issue.

Unless they find it in her car. Then that is going to really hurt their case.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I've defended a number of jail suicide cases over the years. And one where the inmate was murdered by another.

Part of the dynamic of the jail suicide cases, that really drive them, is that the family invariably feels terribly guilty that they did not bail the family member out. They sue, wanting someone else to be blamed, to assuage their own guilt.

In one case, a young man, about 23 or 24 and from a very nice family, had a drug problem and a number of scrapes with the law as a result. He got arrested for maybe the fourth or fifth time, and called his mom to bond him out. The father was overseas on business and didn't know anything about it.

The small amount it would have taken to get him out was no big deal to them. But she decided that the better course was not to do so, at least not immediately, because she thought it best that he face some consequences.

He hung himself in the jail a few days later.

I deposed the mother and father, and you could see on their faces, particularly hers, the tremendous guilt. And to boot she of course worried that her husband would forever have this terrible resentment towards her. The family was absolutely wrecked, forever.

From what I've read about the current case the family was in the process of trying to come up with bond money. I've read it was $5,000, I believe, but that usually means just a deposit of $500. Someone in that family knew that and who knows how slowly they were dealing with it or what the issues are. They really do not want to believe she committed suicide, because if she did, and they were slow to bail her out for any reason, well, you can imagine how they would feel.
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We can agree on this...
 
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