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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Of course, we'd be strung up. However, if assault charges gets scum like that cop off the street, I'm all for it.
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Oh in this country... It'll be a win if he simply loses his badge. Criminal charges are a fantasy. I just like to point things like that out. Cause if it's bad for me or you to it then it should be bad for them too. You can't take an immoral act and slap a badge on it and magically make it moral.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
Oh in this country... It'll be a win if he simply loses his badge. Criminal charges are a fantasy. I just like to point things like that out. Cause if it's bad for me or you to it then it should be bad for them too. You can't take an immoral act and slap a badge on it and magically make it moral.
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Indeed. Immoral means do not yield moral results.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
There is something that bothers me about that video as well. Notice he placed her out of view of the dashcam. He's learned a lot in his year of disservice. Basically it sets up a citizens word vs a cop in the court room. As we know this forms a triad against the accused, as all the people against the citizen work for the same employer (the state)
Fight the ticket? Yeah right...

Notice how his story quickly fell apart once the footage was released.
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Thats a good observation.
 
#8,910
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Cdywolfe said:
Oh in this country... It'll be a win if he simply loses his badge. Criminal charges are a fantasy. I just like to point things like that out. Cause if it's bad for me or you to it then it should be bad for them too. You can't take an immoral act and slap a badge on it and magically make it moral.
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That was the argument I was making in the Charleston shooting. If someone attacks a civilian in their home and the civilian shoots them in the back as they are fleeing, that would be an automatic charge on the civilian. Yet, it took video and days of public outrage to finally get charges on the officer. I'm sure the coroner and the police department would have worked in tandem to clean up their story had no video be around.
 
#8,911
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She’s not dead because of the arrest, she’s dead because for whatever reason, she killed herself

Three days in jail. Now there are 200 people at a memorial service. Where were they when she needed help for her depression and bailed out of jail?
 
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Just saw Hillarys take on the situation, if I hadn't seen it I would've thought it was Al Sharpton making the statement..
 
#8,913
#8,913
She was languishing in jail for ASSAULTING A POLICE OFFICER, and because none of those 200 people came to bail her out.

She is dead, because SHE DECIDED TO HANG HERSELF WITH A damn TRASH BAG.

It’s pretty DAMN SIMPLE.
 
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stonevols said:
She was languishing in jail for ASSAULTING A POLICE OFFICER, and because none of those 200 people came to bail her out.

She is dead, because SHE DECIDED TO HANG HERSELF WITH A damn TRASH BAG.

It’s pretty DAMN SIMPLE.
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Exactly when did she assault the officer? Was it after she was threatened with a taser, or when she nearly had her wrists broken by the officer?
 
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Obsessed said:
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Can't really read that says but it's also none of my business. It definitely makes the suicide seem far more reasonable. On the same hand, it also makes the fact that they stuck her in a cage and drove her to it when she didn't really do anything wrong seem exponentially more cruel.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Exactly when did she assault the officer? Was it after she was threatened with a taser, or nearly had her wrists broken by the officer?
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She had a damn attitude when he came to car!!!!

Im white and while on the UT strip one night in 1985 I got pulled over by a cop for a rolling stop at a stop sign and asked to put my cigg out and step out of the car...I did!

Oh and I went to jail and didn't hang my self!
 
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stonevols said:
She had a damn attitude when he came to car!!!!

Im white and while on the UT strip one night in 1985 I got pulled over by a cop for a rolling stop at a stop sign and asked to put my cigg out and step out of the car...I did!

Oh and I went to jail and didn't hang my self!
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You didn't answer the question.

My apologies, it wasn't an actual question. I was mearly proving a point that the officer assaulted her first. Any action taken by her at that point would be justifiable self defense.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
You didn't answer the question.
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Any order that doesn’t violate specified Civil Rights and doesn’t otherwise violate another State or Federal law is considered a lawful order. That is the limit of his authority. He did not ask her to do anything that is prohibited by law so his requests were lawful orders. She was required by law to comply even if she didn’t agree with it or like it.

She "CHOSE" to be combative and resist!


I’m not going to defend "everything" the cop said or did, but the whole episode would have played out entirely differently if she had been cooperative, non- confrontational, and respectful from the start. Smart people do not pick fights with cops.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
Can't really read that says but it's also none of my business. It definitely makes the suicide seem far more reasonable. On the same hand, it also makes the fact that they stuck her in a cage and drove her to it when she didn't really do anything wrong seem exponentially more cruel.
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It tells me several things:

She had already attempted suicide and failed.

And, the cops knowing this, should have had her on suicide watch.
 
#8,925
#8,925
Was he right to "order" her out of the car after her perceived defiance?

YUP!!!!

Pennsylvania v. Mimms, a 1977 U.S. Supreme Court decision, says it's reasonable and not a violation of the Fourth Amendment for an officer to order a motorist to exit their vehicle following a traffic stop and conduct a pat-down to check for weapons.



Looks like she became a 'radical cop hater' explains her attitude and we all know who drove that idea!
 
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