Edward Snowden: American Hero

[BearCat204]

1. That's not what we were discussing. Has he been charged with providing information to Russia? No he has not.

2. He doesn't need to answer to his actual charges. He's guilty of them. We all know that. I wouldn't answer to them either if I were him. Why be a martyr?

When did I say he was charged with that? He hasnt answered to the charges he does have and that normally leads into a further investigation and could lead to other charges. But I forgot, he didnt give anything away, you've been very clear on that.

 

[Vol8188]

Did I say that? It's a fact that he has been charged with:
1)Theft of Government property
2)Unauthorized communication of national defense information
3)Willful communication of classified material to an unauthorized person

Which is espionage...............never said he was "charged with handing information to Russia".

Yes, we know those things. That's not what we're discussing.

 

[BearCat204]

Yes, we know those things. That's not what we're discussing.

What are we discussing then? Perhaps we are on different pages, or I drank too much last night, but I thought we were discussing the assumption that you thought I said Snowden has been charged with handing over information to Russia. I clearly did not, I just disagree that we can call Snowden innocent before we know all the answers, especially seeing as what else he has been charged with. With what he has been charged with, it's a very reasonable assumption that he is possibly guilty of giving information to Russia in exchange for asylum. You, on the other hand, choose to completely remove it from any possibility (according to what you have posted) that he has given away information to Russia, because we just havent proved that yet. Am I on track now?

 

[BeecherVol]

1. That's not what we were discussing. Has he been charged with providing information to Russia? No he has not.

2. He doesn't need to answer to his actual charges. He's guilty of them. We all know that. I wouldn't answer to them either if I were him. Why be a martyr?

Because we "know" he would be served with a death sentence.

 

[Vol8188]

Because we "know" he would be served with a death sentence.

I would consider a life sentence to be martyrdom also.

 

[BeecherVol]

I would consider a life sentence to be martyrdom also.

So the death sentence is a stretch.

 

[Vol8188]

What are we discussing then? Perhaps we are on different pages, or I drank too much last night, but I thought we were discussing the assumption that you thought I said Snowden has been charged with handing over information to Russia. I clearly did not, I just disagree that we can call Snowden innocent before we know all the answers, especially seeing as what else he has been charged with. With what he has been charged with, it's a very reasonable assumption that he is possibly guilty of giving information to Russia in exchange for asylum. You, on the other hand, choose to completely remove it from any possibility (according to what you have posted) that he has given away information to Russia, because we just havent proved that yet. Am I on track now?

You jumped into a conversation about if snowden handed over information to Russia.

 

[Vol8188]

So the death sentence is a stretch.

Idk

 

[BeecherVol]

Idk

Hey!

I have found something you don't know.

 

[BeecherVol]

You jumped into a conversation about if snowden handed over information to Russia.

Just curious.

If he has handed them information do you see that as important to know or meh, he's egged the government it doesn't matter what he did or does going forward.

 

[Vol8188]

Hey!

I have found something you don't know.

Don't tell my wife, please

 

[BeecherVol]

Don't tell my wife, please

:crossfingers:

 

[Vol8188]

Just curious.

If he has handed them information do you see that as important to know or meh, he's egged the government it doesn't matter what he did or does going forward.

I would consider it important.

 

[BearCat204]

You jumped into a conversation about if snowden handed over information to Russia.

Then I'm having an off day.............I mean I have been walking around all day with my zipper down

 

[BeecherVol]

Then I'm having an off day.............I mean I have been walking around all day with my zipper down

Don't tell my wife, please

:nono:

 

[Vol8188]

:nono:

Well, I can't prove that I didn't unzip his pants

 

[BeecherVol]

Well, I can't prove that I didn't unzip his pants

And here he had to tell us it was.

Some facts are better left out.

 

[BearCat204]

I'm uncomfortable now

 

[BeecherVol]

I'm uncomfortable now

Putin on line 2.

 

[apevol]

Then I'm having an off day.............I mean I have been walking around all day with my zipper down

This post caused me to look down and check my fly. Sure enough...

 

[Vol8188]

This post caused me to look down and check my fly. Sure enough...

Got another one!

 

[apevol]

Got another one!

Lol.

 

[BearCat204]

This post caused me to look down and check my fly. Sure enough...

I've been walking around all damn day with it down and just noticed about an hour or two ago.

 

[apevol]

I've been walking around all damn day with it down and just noticed about an hour or two ago.

When you see someone else with their fly unzipped, do you tell them? Or are you hesistant to embarrass them? Or are you too ashamed to admit you were looking at their crotch? I know some grown men who wear sweat pants everywhere they go.

 

[LouderVol]

So anything that we do not know someone did, we just assume they did it? Like I don't know that you didn't kill Jonbenet Ramsey, therefore you're guilty?

Come on, Gramps. That's absurd and you know it.

we know he has been talking with foreign nations. Read one of the articles I posted, or whoever the other one was. again that is what we are hearing about. tip of the iceberg of whatever information he is passing along.