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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
You may have answered this already, if so I apologize. What are your views on private property?
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I am opposed to private property. However, a distinction must be made between private property and personal possession. Your personal possessions are those that you make use of in your daily life. Your house, your car, the tools you need for your job, and so on. Those belong to you. To put it simply, you own what you make use of.
 
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iVol4Life said:
This is admittedly a complex issue. I think this link does a better job explaining my position than I could. It's a good read regardless of whether you agree with it, so I'd definitely recommend it.

C.2 Why is capitalism exploitative? | Anarchist Writers
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I think 'The Road to Serfdom' by Hayek is a more convincing argument for market libertarianism than any I have read. His argument would totally blow your theory on inherent market exploitation out of the water (which is pretty clearly derived from a Marxist viewpoint). Capitalism is by no means a perfect system but it is so far the only system in which freedom is, in some sense protected.

I'm not sure how free people would be in an anarcho-socialist country. I suppose it depends whether the anarchy or socialist part of the ideology is the flavor of the month I guess.
 
#82
#82
iVol4Life said:
Would you mind rephrasing? Having trouble understanding what you mean.
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Yeah I have three kids crawling all over me....u said earlier that u would take by force from the wealthy and redistribute it. If money is being given to you how can it be considered earned?
 
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alexmanu said:
I think 'The Road to Serfdom' by Hayek is a more convincing argument for market libertarianism than any I have read. His argument would totally blow your theory on inherent market exploitation out of the water (which is pretty clearly derived from a Marxist viewpoint). Capitalism is by no means a perfect system but it is so far the only system in which freedom is, in some sense protected.

I'm not sure how free people would be in an anarcho-socialist country. I suppose it depends whether the anarchy or socialist part of the ideology is the flavor of the month I guess.
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Would the "community council" have to approve all vacations? Would there even be places to go on vacation?
 
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iVol4Life said:
I am opposed to private property. However, a distinction must be made between private property and personal possession. Your personal possessions are those that you make use of in your daily life. Your house, your car, the tools you need for your job, and so on. Those belong to you. To put it simply, you own what you make use of.
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I'm pretty sure most people make use of their property, otherwise they wouldn't own it. BTW how would your proposed society be anarchist if private ownership of property didn't exist? Is it simply a free-for-all?
 
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volbeast33 said:
Yeah I have three kids crawling all over me....u said earlier that u would take by force from the wealthy and redistribute it. If money is being given to you how can it be considered earned?
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I'm personally opposed to money. In my ideal anarchist system, there wouldn't be any. By wealth, I mostly mean businesses, goods, etc. Those would be taken from the capitalist class and given to the workers and communities.
 
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#88
Socialists are too consumed with the notion that our value is in our labor. We are more than that.
 
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iVol4Life said:
I'm personally opposed to money. In my ideal anarchist system, there wouldn't be any. By wealth, I mostly mean businesses, goods, etc. Those would be taken from the capitalist class and given to the workers and communities.
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Taken by who exactly? The state? But the whole premise of anarchism is a stateless society.

I think, based on this thread, it's pretty clear that you are a communist or Marxist (however you want to look at it) that is injecting a few anarchist principles into your ideology to make it seem more 'hip' and unique. Not uncommon, I know I would inject my personal ideology with some obscure beliefs so I seemed more interesting in political debates.
 
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iVol4Life said:
I'm personally opposed to money. In my ideal anarchist system, there wouldn't be any. By wealth, I mostly mean businesses, goods, etc. Those would be taken from the capitalist class and given to the workers and communities.
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You are going to need one more big ass war for your world to happen. I dare say a replicator and cold fusion will be developed first
 
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iVol4Life said:
I'm personally opposed to money. In my ideal anarchist system, there wouldn't be any. By wealth, I mostly mean businesses, goods, etc. Those would be taken from the capitalist class and given to the workers and communities.
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What if someone doesn't work? Are they given the same goods?
 
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#92
82_VOL_83 said:
Would the "community council" have to approve all vacations? Would there even be places to go on vacation?
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The workplace would be run by the workers. You'd either be able to choose when your work or it would be determined democratically within the workplace. I'd imagine such rules would be very lenient, though. You could reasonably take breaks as needed. No one could stop you.

alexmanu said:
I'm pretty sure most people make use of their property, otherwise they wouldn't own it. BTW how would your proposed society be anarchist if private ownership of property didn't exist? Is it simply a free-for-all?
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For most people yes, they do own all of their private property. This mostly applies to big businesses and whatnot. No, it wouldn't be a free-for-all. Resources would be collectively owned and managed. Organizational decisions would be made democratically by the community.
 
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#93
My son, coming home from school at about 13 years of age: Dad, I've decided to be an anarchist.
Me: Cool, can I be an anarchist, too?
Son: Sure, dad.
Me: Great, do me a favor and go get me that cast iron skillet off the stove.
Son goes to get it...son: wait, what do you need with the iron skillet?
Me: cuz I'm gonna hit you over the head with it..
Son: Dadddddddddddd, whyyy?
Me: Because there's no laws against that for US anarchists, is there?
 
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alexmanu said:
Taken by who exactly? The state? But the whole premise of anarchism is a stateless society.

I think, based on this thread, it's pretty clear that you are a communist or Marxist (however you want to look at it) that is injecting a few anarchist principles into your ideology to make it seem more 'hip' and unique. Not uncommon, I know I would inject my personal ideology with some obscure beliefs so I seemed more interesting in political debates.
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He isn't an anarchist. He doesn't know what the word means. He is a Marxist plain and simple.
 
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volbeast33 said:
What if someone doesn't work? Are they given the same goods?
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Some anarchists think that everyone ought to receive everything regardless of whether or not they work. Others (like myself), think that those who are able to but do not work are not participating in and contributing to the community and thus have no right to the community's resources. What constitutes work is very flexible, though. Different people have different capabilities.
 
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MphsBlues said:
My son, coming home from school at about 13 years of age: Dad, I've decided to be an anarchist.
Me: Cool, can I be an anarchist, too?
Son: Sure, dad.
Me: Great, do me a favor and go get me that cast iron skillet off the stove.
Son goes to get it...son: wait, what do you need with the iron skillet?
Me: cuz I'm gonna hit you over the head with it..
Son: Dadddddddddddd, whyyy?
Me: Because there's no laws against that for US anarchists, is there?
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The idea that we only behave because of legal consequences is absurd.
 
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iVol4Life said:
The workplace would be run by the workers. You'd either be able to choose when your work or it would be determined democratically within the workplace. I'd imagine such rules would be very lenient, though. You could reasonably take breaks as needed. No one could stop you.


For most people yes, they do own all of their private property. This mostly applies to big businesses and whatnot. No, it wouldn't be a free-for-all. Resources would be collectively owned and managed. Organizational decisions would be made democratically by the community.
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What you've just aptly described there is communism.
 
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alexmanu said:
Taken by who exactly? The state? But the whole premise of anarchism is a stateless society.

I think, based on this thread, it's pretty clear that you are a communist or Marxist (however you want to look at it) that is injecting a few anarchist principles into your ideology to make it seem more 'hip' and unique. Not uncommon, I know I would inject my personal ideology with some obscure beliefs so I seemed more interesting in political debates.
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No. Taken by the revolutionaries. Also, I am only familiar with anarchism. The authoritarian left disgusts me.
 
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