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#902
#902
Talk about taking the wrong job: Buzz Williams at Va. Tech. He's a good coach, but at the wrong school in the wrong conference. The hokies lost 17 of their last 19 games this year. Granted it was Williams' first year--but how about coaching at a football school in a conference with UNC, Duke, Louisville, Syracuse (now weakened by sanctions), NC State, Virginia--and FSU and Clemson are usually respectable or better as well. Virginia Murderer's row. Good luck with that. Wish we could hire him away from Va.Tech--though I know the buyout would prevent it. UT and the SEC would be a very nice situation for him. It's too bad he took the Va. Tech job just before the Quanze left us.
 
#903
#903
There was no way Marshall was going to bama. And need I add: he's not coming here, either.
 
#905
#905
I feel so dejected by this basketball program that I don't really even care who we hire. Sure, I'd prefer a guy like Chris Mack but I realize that's probably unrealistic. I really don't care. Just hire someone so we can pretend to care about them until next season.
 
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#906
#906
armchair said:
Talk about taking the wrong job: Buzz Williams at Va. Tech. He's a good coach, but at the wrong school in the wrong conference. The hokies lost 17 of their last 19 games this year. Granted it was Williams' first year--but how about coaching at a football school in a conference with UNC, Duke, Louisville, Syracuse (now weakened by sanctions), NC State, Virginia--and FSU and Clemson are usually respectable or better as well. Virginia Murderer's row. Good luck with that. Wish we could hire him away from Va.Tech--though I know the buyout would prevent it. UT and the SEC would be a very nice situation for him. It's too bad he took the Va. Tech job just before the Quanze left us.
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I really like Buzz but this probably doesn't end well.
I agree that he would have jumped at this job.
 
#907
#907
Bill Justice stated on the Doug Mathews show this morning that himself and other former players want Rick Byrd.


I am now on that bandwagon. Biggest reason being he will bring great stability for a 3-5 year period and then I believe the time will be right for a homecoming in which many if not all of the big donors will strongly support.
 
#908
#908
BruinVol said:
Bill Justice stated on the Doug Mathews show this morning that himself and other former players want Rick Byrd.


I am now on that bandwagon. Biggest reason being he will bring great stability for a 3-5 year period and then I believe the time will be right for a homecoming in which many if not all of the big donors will strongly support.
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Homecoming for who?
 
#911
#911
Yankee_Vol said:
Byrd was born in Knoxville and attended UTK
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I don't think that is what was implied. I think he meant Byrd for 3-5 years to stabilize the program before old Pearl comes back home (you know, because he was here for so long that this is home).

Byrd is a great hire. Bruce is not.
 
#912
#912
BruinVol said:
Bill Justice stated on the Doug Mathews show this morning that himself and other former players want Rick Byrd.


I am now on that bandwagon. Biggest reason being he will bring great stability for a 3-5 year period and then I believe the time will be right for a homecoming in which many if not all of the big donors will strongly support.
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Barnes is the better coach vs. Byrd and would do everything much better plus be 10 times the recruiter. If it is stability you want the choice between the two is crystal clear, Barnes every time.
 
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#914
Caculator said:
Barnes is the better coach vs. Byrd and would do everything much better plus be 10 times the recruiter. If it is stability you want the choice between the two is crystal clear, Barnes every time.
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The AD won't pay what it would take to get Barnes. It won't take much to get Byrd (if thats who they want). UT is cheap, it'll hire a cheap coach.
 
#915
#915
Caculator said:
Barnes is the better coach vs. Byrd and would do everything much better plus be 10 times the recruiter. If it is stability you want the choice between the two is crystal clear, Barnes every time.
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How is Barnes better? Byrd has over 900 wins at ........get this.....Belmont. Just because he has not been to and won multiple tournement games does not make him a lesser coach. Byrd would be a great hire that would win and win big at UT.
 
#916
#916
Panthro said:
I feel so dejected by this basketball program that I don't really even care who we hire. Sure, I'd prefer a guy like Chris Mack but I realize that's probably unrealistic. I really don't care. Just hire someone so we can pretend to care about them until next season.
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Defeatist philosophy is what gets you the Tyndalls and the Wades. Come on now.
 
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bnhunt said:
A Sweet 16 appearance and an awful ref call from the Elite 8 would seem to refute this assertion.
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We were one of the last teams in the tourney and a favorable first three matchup games. All you got to do is get in the tourney. That's why everyone was so pissed his second year. Had great talent yet couldn't even get us in the tourney. He was a massive under achiever on and off the court in his time. Also, it was a crap call but it's not like Stokes went on to make a waved off basket.
 
#922
#922
barknoxbrawler said:
How is Barnes better?
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Don't be intellectually dishonest.


Rick Byrd
Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1976–1978
1978–1980
1980–1983
1983–1986
1986–present Maryville (asst.)
Maryville
Tennessee Tech (asst.)
Lincoln Memorial
Belmont
Accomplishments and honors
Championships
TCAC Tournament Championship (1988, '94, '95)
A-Sun North Division Championship (2003)
A-Sun Regular Season Championship (2006, 2008, 2010, 2011)
A-Sun Tournament Championship (2006, '07, '08, '11, '12)
OVC East Division Championship (2013, 2014, 2015)
OVC Tournament Championship (2013, 2015)
Awards
NAIA National Coach of the Year (1995)
Hugh Durham National Coach of the Year (2011)
A-Sun Coach of the Year (2008, '11)
OVC Coach of the Year (2013)[1]
Belmont Athletic Hall of Fame (1996)
NAIA Hall of Fame (2004)
Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame (2013)
Dr. James Naismith National Sportsmanship Award (1994)



Rick Barnes
Accomplishments and honors
Championships
Regional Championship - Final Four (2003)
Big 12 Regular Season Championship (1999, 2006, 2008)
Big East Tournament Championship (1994)
NCAA Tournament Achievements
3 Elite Eights (2003, 2006, 2008)
6 Sweet Sixteens (1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008)
22 NCAA Tournament Bids (1989, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015)
Awards
ACC Coach of the Year (1987)
Big 12 Coach of the Year (1999, 2003, 2008, 2014)
 
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#923
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barknoxbrawler said:
How is Barnes better? Byrd has over 900 wins at ........get this.....Belmont. Just because he has not been to and won multiple tournement games does not make him a lesser coach. Byrd would be a great hire that would win and win big at UT.
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900 wins at Belmont is great and all but that's the point, it's at Belmont. There's nothing telling me it's some given that translates to winning big at UT. He's never recruited at this level nor coached day in and day out at this level.
 
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#924
#924
Caculator said:
Don't be intellectually dishonest.


Rick Byrd
Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1976–1978
1978–1980
1980–1983
1983–1986
1986–present Maryville (asst.)
Maryville
Tennessee Tech (asst.)
Lincoln Memorial
Belmont
Accomplishments and honors
Championships
TCAC Tournament Championship (1988, '94, '95)
A-Sun North Division Championship (2003)
A-Sun Regular Season Championship (2006, 2008, 2010, 2011)
A-Sun Tournament Championship (2006, '07, '08, '11, '12)
OVC East Division Championship (2013, 2014, 2015)
OVC Tournament Championship (2013, 2015)
Awards
NAIA National Coach of the Year (1995)
Hugh Durham National Coach of the Year (2011)
A-Sun Coach of the Year (2008, '11)
OVC Coach of the Year (2013)[1]
Belmont Athletic Hall of Fame (1996)
NAIA Hall of Fame (2004)
Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame (2013)
Dr. James Naismith National Sportsmanship Award (1994)



Rick Barnes
Accomplishments and honors
Championships
Regional Championship - Final Four (2003)
Big 12 Regular Season Championship (1999, 2006, 2008)
Big East Tournament Championship (1994)
NCAA Tournament Achievements
3 Elite Eights (2003, 2006, 2008)
6 Sweet Sixteens (1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008)
22 NCAA Tournament Bids (1989, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015)
Awards
ACC Coach of the Year (1987)
Big 12 Coach of the Year (1999, 2003, 2008, 2014)
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Comparing achievements and wins/loses at Belmont to Texas is fine. Coaching wise ......Byrd has gotten more out of less for far more years than Barnes. Coaching wise, I believe Byrd is up there with some of the better names in college basketball.
 
#925
#925
RockyTop411 said:
True, true, true, and true.

Too bad some of the higher ups won't get over the fact he "burned bridges" a couple of years ago.

He would win, and I thought winning cures everything...

(Seriously, Tennessee fans would donate a ton of money to get him back, but this would be too big of a hire for Hart to accept)
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As a 26 year old, I would buy season tickets in Vols Hoops if we hired him back. I would be willing to do that even with school loans and other things. Everyone knows Bruce was always going to be a Lifer here like Summitt before she unfortunately was diagnosed.
 
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