Christian activist judge orders Alabama officials to disobey the law

[govols/cc]

Today's KKK.

No different than the naacp yet one is shunned.

 

[bamawriter]

So why is pedophilia outlawed?

For the exact same reason that there are laws regarding age when it comes to driving, drinking, voting, contracts, criminal penalties, etc. As a society, and as a nation, we hold adults to different standards than we do children.

 

[govols/cc]

Who is trouncing on your Christian rights?

Can you still pray to God?

Can you still go to church?

Can you still say in public that you are a Christian?


Christians should learn to except others, that is something that we have gotten away from over the years. This " think like me or else" is pure egotistical bs.

How many times has the Protestant Church split since the Reformation?

Too many times. You know why? Because one decided they wanted to believe different in the God they worship

The more Christianity shuts its mouth about unimportant issues, the more people will respect our views.

You can't scream intolerant words and expect tolerance in return

So Christians being forced to go outside their beliefs to accommodate others is OK yet Muhammad is granted special privileges to protect his. Lol got it.

 

[govols/cc]

How many in this thread, who are Christians, go exactly by the word of the bible?

If you can't answer that with a resounding yes, then you have no right to judge

So you can judge whoever if you're atheist. Lol got it.

Apparently it's my RIGHT to have whatever I want

 

[govols/cc]

.

Yep, if you only had a brain

 

[govols/cc]

Consenting ADULTS....

Drugs, prostitution, marriage, and choosing not to bake a cake for a gay marriage should all be left up to each Adult in a free society.

If you're 13 and murder someone you're tried as an adult. If you're 13 and want to have sex with a 30 year old it's a crime.....for the 30 year old. I may not agree with it but there is some hypocrisy in there.

 

[MercyPercy]

Nancy still can't answer how his rights as a Christian are being violated by gay marriage. Imagine that.

 

[Gannon Goodson]

How can you not understand something so simple:

The law openly discriminates against homosexual couples, which is a violation of the 14th amendment.

No it is not. The law doesn't discriminate against anyone unless said law violates an inherent right. Marriage is not an inherent right, so defining it between one man and one woman is not a constitutional violation.

These laws affect heterosexuals because of bans on polygamy and polyamory. I don't hear you crying discrimination. They don't discriminate against homosexuals anymore than they do against heterosexuals.

You need to polish up on legal theory and your lack of understanding with regards to common law and constitutional law.

 

[govols/cc]

No it is not. The law doesn't discriminate against anyone unless said law violates an inherent right. Marriage is not an inherent right, so defining it between one man and one woman is not a constitutional violation.

These laws affect heterosexuals because of bans on polygamy and polyamory. I don't hear you crying discrimination. They don't discriminate against homosexuals anymore than they do against heterosexuals.

You need to polish up on legal theory and your lack of understanding with regards to common law and constitutional law.

Everything liberals and minorities want is now a right.

 

[govols/cc]

I still want to know more about how oppressive our government is towards christians

If I don't want to bake a cake for gays somehow I face legal action. If Muhammad is running the register at Kroger he doesn't have to sell me my beer or pack of bacon.

 

[Gannon Goodson]

It took a SCOTUS decision to overturn ban on interracial marriage. What I find interesting is that that the people of Alabama were the last to remove the (non-enforceable) ban from their constitution - in 2000. Still, more than 500K voted to keep the ban in their state constitution - in 2000.

The people don't have a spotless history when speaking on such things.

We can certainly debate the wisdom of that. However, it doesn't change the fact that the Court stepped in where it had no authority to do so. This wasn't the first case of judicial activism, and it certainly won't be the last.

We have to keep in mind that what is not spelled out in the federal Constitution is reserved to the states. The Supreme Court's job is to step in when the states violate a constitutional right. Marriage is not a constitutional right, so all marriage questions are left to the states. It's up to the people of those states to either put an amendment on the ballot or elect representatives who share their values and will carry out their will.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

If I don't want to bake a cake for gays somehow I face legal action. If Muhammad is running the register at Kroger he doesn't have to sell me my beer or pack of bacon.

So you were refused the bacon or beer? No accomendations were made that allowed you to still purchase those?

 

[bamawriter]

So Christians being forced to go outside their beliefs to accommodate others is OK yet Muhammad is granted special privileges to protect his. Lol got it.

I'm a Christian. The State determining that gays can marry doesn't require any compromise on my behalf. If my faith says that it's wrong for gays to marry, then I'm obligated to not marry another man. What other people do doesn't cause any issues with my personal relationship with my creator.

 

[govols/cc]

So you were refused the bacon or beer? No accomendations were made that allowed you to still purchase those?

Splitting hairs huh. Well what if Muhammad opens a quickie mart and doesn't sell bacon or beer? Do I gave a gripe and can I take legal action to force him to?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Splitting hairs huh. Well what if Muhammad opens a quickie mart and doesn't sell bacon or beer? Do I gave a gripe and can I take legal action to force him to?

Nope, because you are a Christian.

 

[#VFL__]

If I don't want to bake a cake for gays somehow I face legal action. If Muhammad is running the register at Kroger he doesn't have to sell me my beer or pack of bacon.

Yep, so why are you not agreeing that this subject should have been solved along time ago. You want your rights as a "Christian" yet still support discrimination against someone else. We should ALL be protected under our nation's laws.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

We should ALL be protected under our nation's laws.

But we're not. If you are a white male with a job, everything is your fault.

 

[Septic]

So Christians being forced to go outside their beliefs to accommodate others is OK yet Muhammad is granted special privileges to protect his. Lol got it.

Are you being asked to do something other than be tolerant?

 

[Carl Pickens]

Yep, so why are you not agreeing that this subject should have been solved along time ago. You want your rights as a "Christian" yet still support discrimination against someone else. We should ALL be protected under our nation's laws.

Just ask Hobby Lobby how that's working out for them

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Splitting hairs huh. Well what if Muhammad opens a quickie mart and doesn't sell bacon or beer? Do I gave a gripe and can I take legal action to force him to?

Wait, you are accusing me of splitting hairs with your weak ass examples and your "what if" scenarios?

I don't know, can you take legal action over Christian influenced blue laws?

 

[govols/cc]

I'm a Christian. The State determining that gays can marry doesn't require any compromise on my behalf. If my faith says that it's wrong for gays to marry, then I'm obligated to not marry another man. What other people do doesn't cause any issues with my personal relationship with my creator.

I get that. Them getting hitched doesn't bother me as much as government being involved to begin with and if they're gonna change that to give them those special privileges that come with marriage then everybody should get those privileges.

 

[utvolpj]

Splitting hairs huh. Well what if Muhammad opens a quickie mart and doesn't sell bacon or beer? Do I gave a gripe and can I take legal action to force him to?

:lol:

Did this seriously make sense in your head? No, you can't gripe if Autozone won't sell you bacon either

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Are you being asked to do something other than be tolerant?

In the example, the bakery owner certainly was.

 

[theFallGuy]

Nancy still can't answer how his rights as a Christian are being violated by gay marriage. Imagine that.

If being homosexual is akin to race then the federal government will prosecute those that don't want to offer services such as hosting weddings on religious grounds. I'm not saying that it is right or wrong but it is something that will happen.

I guess that it is not a problem if you don't view that as a violation of religious freedom but it is something that would ultimately have to be decided by a court.

 

[govols/cc]

Yep, so why are you not agreeing that this subject should have been solved along time ago. You want your rights as a "Christian" yet still support discrimination against someone else. We should ALL be protected under our nation's laws.

How do you do that and make everyone happy?