Fast Foward: Jan 1, 2008? Fulmer Excuses

#27
#27
rockydoc said:
When next years Outback, Chick Fil A, Cotton or Capital One game (whatever bowl UT is in) concludes, what will be Phil's excuse for not playing in a BCS or national championship game? Let's help him out here:

1) Inexperienced QB (and whose fault is that, Coach?)
2) Tough schedule. (The UCLA game all of a sudden looks challenging with RN as their coach).
3) Injuries? Everybody has them, that football.
4) Perfect Storm.....wait you've already used that one.
5) All the new coaches

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fixed.
 
#29
#29
BigPapaVol said:
I'm starting to change my mind. We'll probably destroy the SECE next season and play OU in the NCG.

The logic from the crowd for sweeping change just doesn't pass muster. They have no ammo. Those pesky little 14 losses over the past 3 seasons are just an aberration. The nine season championshipless streak, just a temporary series of setbacks. Don't they know we've played in as many SECCGs as anyone else. I've been focused on it in the past, but what's the big hangup with actually winning the title. I should be just as content to list for people the series of plays that sealed our defeats while pointing out that we were close and we really overachieved, given that a couple of other teams have trounced us earlier in the season.

This staff is going to turn it around under Fulmer. Do those illogical buffoons not remember the last time he guided an organization through a workout scenario and reinstituted excellence as the standard? That cat's easy to get back in the bag for an old regime. Just boggles the imagination that they're not with us in expecting at least 13 wins, SEC title and a BCS berth. How on earth do they view this slightly extended down period as mediocre? I know opposing coaches even have jokes about our penchant for the Citrus, but it's a nice bowl. Bunches of college teams would kill to go there and have a chance to win 10 games every 3rd year or so.
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Do you ever have a good day as a Vol fan? I know, I know, not in the past 9 years since the last SEC title and I understand that. It frustrates me too but I really don't recall anything you have said about a UT team in a positive light in a looooong time. Do you actually enjoy being a UT fan? No sarcasm intended, I genuinely(sp?) like to know
 
#31
#31
i enjoy the games immensely and I love the prospect of the basketball team.

I strogly believe we will have to see change in the football program before it goes anywhere near where we need. I've spent one helluva lot of time around teams and turnarounds are top down type operations and don't work without change at the very topand hardcore accountability. neither of these is coming to UT any time soon. i find that very frustrating. i'm happy that we made the SECCG, but annoyed that said game propped up CPF after absolutely embarrassing losses this year, yet we squandered the game away against a depleted LSU team. hence, we came away with nothing to show for the impetus those defeats generated. no SEC title and no changes. exactly where we were at the conclusion of the past 5 or 6 seasons. I find the scenario frustrating.
 
#32
#32
rockydoc said:
When next years Outback, Chick Fil A, Cotton or Capital One game (whatever bowl UT is in) concludes, what will be Phil's excuse for not playing in a BCS or national championship game? Let's help him out here:

1) Inexperienced QB (and whose fault is that, Coach?)
2) Tough schedule. (The UCLA game all of a sudden looks challenging with RN as their coach).
3) Injuries? Everybody has them, that football.
4) Perfect Storm.....wait you've already used that one.
5) ....................

:mf_surrender:
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I'm sorry, but this is honestly ridiculous......Enjoy the win....
 
#33
#33
rockydoc said:
When next years Outback, Chick Fil A, Cotton or Capital One game (whatever bowl UT is in) concludes, what will be Phil's excuse for not playing in a BCS or national championship game? Let's help him out here:

1) Inexperienced QB (and whose fault is that, Coach?)
2) Tough schedule. (The UCLA game all of a sudden looks challenging with RN as their coach).
3) Injuries? Everybody has them, that football.
4) Perfect Storm.....wait you've already used that one.
5) ....................

:mf_surrender:
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Anybody that has seen my threads knows I am not a big Fulmer supporter, BUT COME ON, give the guy a break. Very few people on this board thought we would end up 10 & 4 this season. Despite what some people say, that record is not average ..unless 50% of the other division 1 schools are 10 & 4. :):)
 
#36
#36
rockydoc said:
When next years Outback, Chick Fil A, Cotton or Capital One game (whatever bowl UT is in) concludes, what will be Phil's excuse for not playing in a BCS or national championship game? Let's help him out here:

1) Inexperienced QB (and whose fault is that, Coach?)
2) Tough schedule. (The UCLA game all of a sudden looks challenging with RN as their coach).
3) Injuries? Everybody has them, that football.
4) Perfect Storm.....wait you've already used that one.
5) ....................

:mf_surrender:
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who says we will be in a bowl.
 
#38
#38
BigPapaVol said:
i enjoy the games immensely and I love the prospect of the basketball team.

I strogly believe we will have to see change in the football program before it goes anywhere near where we need. I've spent one helluva lot of time around teams and turnarounds are top down type operations and don't work without change at the very topand hardcore accountability. neither of these is coming to UT any time soon. i find that very frustrating. i'm happy that we made the SECCG, but annoyed that said game propped up CPF after absolutely embarrassing losses this year, yet we squandered the game away against a depleted LSU team. hence, we came away with nothing to show for the impetus those defeats generated. no SEC title and no changes. exactly where we were at the conclusion of the past 5 or 6 seasons. I find the scenario frustrating.
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I can imagine how frustrated you are. Fulmer is responsible for the past 5 or 6 seasons that you find so distasteful, and yet he is also responsible for the excellence to which you are comparing him. You do realize that Fulmer has the best record of any Tennessee HFC for the past 50 years(including the past 5 or 6 seasons)don't you?

By no changes I assume you mean we still have the same HFC because I see many changes happening in the coaching ranks.
 
#39
#39
KentheOrange said:
I can imagine how frustrated you are. Fulmer is responsible for the past 5 or 6 seasons that you find so distasteful, and yet he is also responsible for the excellence to which you are comparing him. You do realize that Fulmer has the best record of any Tennessee HFC for the past 50 years(including the past 5 or 6 seasons)don't you?

By no changes I assume you mean we still have the same HFC because I see many changes happening in the coaching ranks.
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You are measured by championships....................

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#40
#40
Those pesky little 14 losses over the past 3 seasons are just an aberration.
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No. The last two years are 19-7. Not quite but almost back to the 90's level of performance.

Yes... any way you slice, dice, or fillet it... 2005 was an aberration and any time you pull out a subsample from CPF's career that includes that year but not the 13 years prior to it... you have more than likely manipulated the data to dishonestly bolster a predetermined conclusion.
 
#41
#41
sjt18 said:
No. The last two years are 19-7. Not quite but almost back to the 90's level of performance.

Yes... any way you slice, dice, or fillet it... 2005 was an aberration and any time you pull out a subsample from CPF's career that includes that year but not the 13 years prior to it... you have more than likely manipulated the data to dishonestly bolster a predetermined conclusion.
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Well-stated! Absolutely true!:thumbsup:
 
#46
#46
utmba93 said:
Come on OE. You must have a Ricky Bobby pic?
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#48
#48
BigPapa... when you have time please apply your ideal to Bear Bryant in the late 60's. You do realize they had sunk into mediocrity right? You do know that people were calling for his head? You do know that the next ten years of his tenure were the most successful, right?

Turnarounds require change... but the degree of change depends on the distance from the goal. If UT was miles away from 99-2004... then maybe I'd buy your housecleaning idea. They weren't.... and right now they are on the very cusp.

I firmly believe that one or two good players this year would have turned the season into a great one... a Harrell type of DT or maybe a RB in the vein of UT's greats.
 
#50
#50
KentheOrange said:
If you are going to have a one dimensional measurement I guess you would have to be measured by how many tickets you write, or maybe how many bad guys (hopefully) you shot.

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You people are beyond me.

Do you not strive to better yourselves through competition?

What is the purpose for playing in the South Eastern Conference?

The goal shouldn't be winning the SEC every year?
 
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