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Really, the diamond Vols should be good this season. CDS should have them ready to break through. He's building a very good roster and is in on some really good prospects from what I have observed.
 
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Burger said:

Yes, I like Cox so much that I tell them "You and me are nothing but mammals, so lets do it like they do on the Discovery Channel."

But seriously, this team has the pitching to get to Omaha.
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Thanks for the work you are doing in the baseball forum BTW.

FWIW Zach Lingenfelter is the real deal from what I can tell and hear. We are in the same county and his HS plays our HS. You could tell early he should be on the radar. Not quite a protege and as far along as Wil Crowe was at that age, but plenty of time. Wil played SS/3rd, hit .500+ with power while pitching 150+ innings with a very low ERA his senior season and their team won the state. Wil had 3 pitches mastered when he left HS and was close on two more. Walks into USCe and is their ace as a freshman. Zach will probably have 2 mastered and working on a couple more from what I have heard. But he has plenty of time. Big guy like Wil. The baseball around east TN is reasonably strong and getting stronger. Was really glad he committed.
 
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Serrano just inked the #12 class in the country. He pulled two #1 guys at their respective positions.

Ke'Bryan Hayes- #1 Third Baseman
Chris Betts- #1 Catcher
Trey Cabbage- #125 overall player. Infielder
Will Neely- #106 overall player. Pitcher
Daniel Neal- #208 overall player. Utility
Bryant Harris- #135 overall player. Outfielder

Just to name a few. ***All rankings came from Perfect Game.
 
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Vols4us said:
Thanks for the work you are doing in the baseball forum BTW.

FWIW Zach Lingenfelter is the real deal from what I can tell and hear. We are in the same county and his HS plays our HS. You could tell early he should be on the radar. Not quite a protege and as far along as Wil Crowe was at that age, but plenty of time. Wil played SS/3rd, hit .500+ with power while pitching 150+ innings with a very low ERA his senior season and their team won the state. Wil had 3 pitches mastered when he left HS and was close on two more. Walks into USCe and is their ace as a freshman. Zach will probably have 2 mastered and working on a couple more from what I have heard. But he has plenty of time. Big guy like Wil. The baseball around east TN is reasonably strong and getting stronger. Was really glad he committed.
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I love baseball as much as I love football. There are a ton of people doing football analysis, but there is no one doing analysis of the baseball team. I figure I can help VN by being the baseball guy along with Vol66.

I am just as excited about him as much as you are. I hope we can get him here.
 
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TriCitiesVol said:
Serrano just inked the #12 class in the country. He pulled two #1 guys at their respective positions.

Ke'Bryan Hayes- #1 Third Baseman
Chris Betts- #1 Catcher
Trey Cabbage- #125 overall player. Infielder
Will Neely- #106 overall player. Pitcher
Daniel Neal- #208 overall player. Utility
Bryant Harris- #135 overall player. Outfielder

Just to name a few. ***All rankings came from Perfect Game.
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What sux about baseball recruiting is if they're really good, they will most likely opt for the draft and a great class suddenly collapses. Are any of these guys projected to be highly drafted?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
What sux about baseball recruiting is if they're really good, they will most likely opt for the draft and a great class suddenly collapses. Are any of these guys projected to be highly drafted?
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I haven't checked, but I cannot imagine a few of them not being. Burger may have a better handle on that I agree - the drafting is a buzzkill on recruiting.

I followed Wil Crowe's drafting/recruitment since he as a local Pigeon Forge kid. If there has ever been a stud baseball player, not just pitcher, from a HS in east TN beside Todd Helton it is Wil. Watch him for a couple of innings and say see you in the bigs. But his family moved here like 6 years before his graduation from SC. So he was a SC boy at heart. Serano tried hard to get him. He told all the scouts that it would take $1.7 M for him to go out of HS. That knocked him down the board despite his upside. He had his heart set on playing for USCe. So that's where he went. But Serano could have been a really good coach for him with his pitching expertise. He and Kyle are big buddies as it is.

The silly part is I saw so many guys drafted in the higher rounds getting that kind of money and more that cannot hold a candle to him. He's a LH that was consistently throwing 94-95 in HS with good off speed stuff. Was working on a splitter and cut FB. Big, strong, workhorse that could hit for power with decent speed and excellent glove. Zero arm trouble and in great shape. I am a life long Reds fan and I begged a couple of their inside media guys to get the club serious about him to no avail. I have no idea what goes through these organizations' heads sometimes when they trot out those has-beens and wannabes out there that can't break a window pane.

CDS is the real deal and UT better hold on to him for as long as they can.
 
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Burger said:
I love baseball as much as I love football. There are a ton of people doing football analysis, but there is no one doing analysis of the baseball team. I figure I can help VN by being the baseball guy along with Vol66.

I am just as excited about him as much as you are. I hope we can get him here.
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It looks good right now unless he were to get the high pick money. He is a huge UT fan and really likes Serano. Will know more down the line.

Glad you are doing some analysis. Will "pitch" in when I can. I played D-1 for a time back in the 70's along with my Reds fandom for a lifetime. It is a great, crazy, wonderful game IMO. The talent in the game is off the charts better than in my day. International sport now.
 
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ith the Tennessee Lottery Scholarship paying for the first two years of instate tuition, CBJ could take advantage of this for some preferred walk ons
 
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WinchesterVol said:
ith the Tennessee Lottery Scholarship paying for the first two years of instate tuition, CBJ could take advantage of this for some preferred walk ons
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It only pays about 50% of instate tuition at UT, no room and board. Tuition at UT is double what it is at a community college.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
It only pays about 50% of instate tuition at UT, no room and board. Tuition at UT is double what it is at a community college.
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The hope comes up about $17000 short of covering instate tuition, housing and meal program at UT. It's great to get the $4000 but that's a drop in the bucket when it comes to the total cost.

There is a new program for this year's graduating high school class that will cover all the tuition for a JUCO or Technical School for two years. This is a great way to get your first two years out of the way for only the cost of books, but you can't use it for UT.
 
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mountainair said:
The hope comes up about $17000 short of covering instate tuition, housing and meal program at UT. It's great to get the $4000 but that's a drop in the bucket when it comes to the total cost.

There is a new program for this year's graduating high school class that will cover all the tuition for a JUCO or Technical School for two years. This is a great way to get your first two years out of the way for only the cost of books, but you can't use it for UT.
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Yep, got a daughter on the hill right now and she got an academic scholarship as well to help make up the difference. On a side note you can get an additional $1000 per year from the hope if you score a 30 or better on the ACT.
 
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mountainair said:
The hope comes up about $17000 short of covering instate tuition, housing and meal program at UT. It's great to get the $4000 but that's a drop in the bucket when it comes to the total cost.

There is a new program for this year's graduating high school class that will cover all the tuition for a JUCO or Technical School for two years. This is a great way to get your first two years out of the way for only the cost of books, but you can't use it for UT.
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The HOPE has only inflated the cost of education in Tennessee. Kids are still having to pay what they would have paid before the HOPE was initiated. It was a way for the state government to pay for their contribution to the education system but after the inflation it did very little to help middle class kids get an education. They still will be burdened with hefty student loans. Rich families can afford education and the the poor gets government assistance. Go figure. This is like everything else in that the working class is totally ignored.
 
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onevol74 said:
The HOPE has only inflated the cost of education in Tennessee. Kids are still having to pay what they would have paid before the HOPE was initiated. It was a way for the state government to pay for their contribution to the education system but after the inflation it did very little to help middle class kids get an education. They still will be burdened with hefty student loans. Rich families can afford education and the the poor gets government assistance. Go figure. This is like everything else in that the working class is totally ignored.
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yep, I bet if you were to graph the lottery money with the recent rise in tuition it would be linear
 
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VolnJC said:
yep, I bet if you were to graph the lottery money with the recent rise in tuition it would be linear
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I was totally shocked at how little impact the Hope actually made toward tuition. I think the state wants the majority of students to attend community college for two years prior to entering the university system.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I was totally shocked at how little impact the Hope actually made toward tuition. I think the state wants the majority of students to attend community college for two years prior to entering the university system.
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Yes. The Governor's new initiative takes money from the lottery pot for students attending four year institutions and gives it to lower-performing students who want to attend 2-year community colleges.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I was totally shocked at how little impact the Hope actually made toward tuition. I think the state wants the majority of students to attend community college for two years prior to entering the university system.
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its not a terrible idea, I think most of the students that I went to school with at a community college got into med, vet, or pharmacy school eventually. I also remember that the book that we used for organic chemistry was the same one used at Vanderbilt.
 
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schwompal said:
Yes. The Governor's new initiative takes money from the lottery pot for students attending four year institutions and gives it to lower-performing students who want to attend 2-year community colleges.
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When you say lower performing students are you talking about average students?
 
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VolnJC said:
its not a terrible idea, I think most of the students that I went to school with at a community college got into med, vet, or pharmacy school eventually. I also remember that the book that we used for organic chemistry was the same one used at Vanderbilt.
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I don't necessarily think it's a bad idea either. It takes some pressure off the Universities. They have to keep raising their acceptance benchmarks to keep enrollment numbers in check.
 
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VolnJC said:
its not a terrible idea, I think most of the students that I went to school with at a community college got into med, vet, or pharmacy school eventually. I also remember that the book that we used for organic chemistry was the same one used at Vanderbilt.
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On average, the quality of instruction is better at a four year university, even for freshmen and sophomore classes.
 
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