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#783
#783
"I formation"

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"Power I formation"

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"Pro set formation"

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You generally see variations of a pro style that teams will use and mix in spread concepts as well. The game changes so much. Its all about adding that new wrinkle for defensive coordinators to try to stop. Heck just a few years ago the diamond formation or inverted wishbone was all the rage.
 
#788
#788
Majority of offense of all NFL teams is either ran out of the Ace formation(single back set):

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Or out of the shotgun set with spread variances of 4 and 5 wide sets:

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#789
#789
TriedAndTrueVOL said:
Majority of offense of all NFL teams is either ran out of the Ace formation(single back set):

Singleback_Formation.PNG


Or out of the shotgun set with spread variances of 4 and 5 wide sets:

Shotgun_Formation_original.jpg
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11 personnel is the most common personnel grouping in the NFL. Which is why I hate it when people call I formation "pro style".
 
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TriedAndTrueVOL said:
Well, "pro style" is really a pretty broad term anyways. There isn't any one formation that makes up a pro style offense.
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I don't disagree with that. But on this board, any team that runs I formation is considered "pro style". When pro teams rarely line up in any 21 personnel sets. 11 and 12 are the most common, followed by 10 and then 21.

I also get annoyed with the belief that you have to play under center to be "pro style". Which is probably done on less than 50% of snaps now in the NFL.

But I do agree that a big issue comes from the ambiguous definition of "pro style". I'd say the best definition is a running scheme based around either zone or power and counter schemes (like the Redskins under Gibbs), with either a vertical Air Coryell passing attack or a quicker west coast attack.

Which is why CBJs offense is 100% pro style. He uses zone, power, and counter run schemes with a west coast passing attack and a ton of 11 personnel.
 
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rallen said:
Why not? Old dolphins run this off.
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"A gap" blitzes. Split back was a passing formation used by west coast teams to get the rbs out into their passing routes quicker by getting them closer to the edge. Have them so far apart negated the running game, unless you wanted to run split back veer (which no NFL team does).

The "a" gap blitzer was the responsibility of the RB in protection. But because he's behind the qb, the blitzer could get to the qb before the RB could pick him up.

The answer was the shotgun. It allowed teams to still get the RB out in a pass pattern quicker than the I formation, allowed the RB the pick up "a" gap blitzers, all while maintaining a solid running game.

...sorry for the thesis.
 
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#793
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Vol8188 said:
I don't disagree with that. But on this board, any team that runs I formation is considered "pro style". When pro teams rarely line up in any 21 personnel sets. 11 and 12 are the most common, followed by 10 and then 21.

I also get annoyed with the belief that you have to play under center to be "pro style". Which is probably done on less than 50% of snaps now in the NFL.

But I do agree that a big issue comes from the ambiguous definition of "pro style". I'd say the best definition is a running scheme based around either zone or power and counter schemes (like the Redskins under Gibbs), with either a vertical Air Coryell passing attack or a quicker west coast attack.

Which is why CBJs offense is 100% pro style. He uses zone, power, and counter run schemes with a west coast passing attack and a ton of 11 personnel.
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I'd agree with all of that.
 
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