'15 TN OT Drew Richmond (Former Ole Miss commit)

[OrangeHammer]

I'm amazed at how many of you all keep using "money" as an excuse. Lots of Memphis area kids go to Ole Miss, esp because of its proximity.

Freeze is a good coach and a good man. Am I saying that there isn't "incentive" to him going to UM? I'm sure there are lots of things that go on behind closed doors. It's hurts because we want and need him, but I don't see yall talking cash in other players threads that we recruited that happened to choose UM over us.

If Freeze gets Richmond it will hurt, but I will say he'll probably regret it when all of his best friends are getting to experience what's about to happen in Knoxville.

He goes, his loss. Simple as that.

Hash tag BUT STILL CHOOSE US THO.

 

[TBrown]

Can't believe "Drew Richmonds Bag Man" isn't a VN handle yet. You disappoint me, recruitniks

 

[dyllisvol42]

I know everyone says that ole miss is Hugh's dream job but coaches are so competitive in nature that if Michigan did come calling and has enough money to offer him he would be silly not to go. UM has a lot to offer. Good facilities, tradition all that stuff. Ole miss has a ceiling and I'm pretty sure it has been reached. I mean when spurrier left Florida ( his dream job) it was because he had a competive side that made want to take the challenge. I think if Um offers enough mone Freeze would be silly not to go.

 

[Playdo]

I know everyone says that ole miss is Hugh's dream job but coaches are so competitive in nature that if Michigan did come calling and has enough money to offer him he would be silly not to go. UM has a lot to offer. Good facilities, tradition all that stuff. Ole miss has a ceiling and I'm pretty sure it has been reached. I mean when spurrier left Florida ( his dream job) it was because he had a competive side that made want to take the challenge. I think if Um offers enough mone Freeze would be silly not to go.

Spurrier did that after several years of being dominant and was considered the top coach in college football at that time. If Freeze is able to do that at Ole Miss, then we can have that conversation -- and I don't think we will ever have that conversation, for what it's worth.

Someone compared Freeze to Fulmer earlier, and that is the perfect example to me. I think it would take some incredible circumstances for him to leave Ole Miss, and I think it would take someone with a gun to make him leave this early.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

I'm curious why people bash the kid for choosing Ole Miss? I am as Vol as anyone could be, yet I understand Tennessee is not for everyone. When people say DR is making a bad decision, it's "his loss", or he is making a mistake, IMO it's nothing but the Orange koolaid. I know I am not the only one who knows Ole Miss is in the SEC. Ole Miss is winning right now. Ole Miss just beat this UT team like a rented mule by 31 points. It's closer to his home and his family seems to prefer it. UT made DR the #1 or #2 priority for 2015 and he chose Ole Miss. Can Ole Miss get DR to the NFL if that is his ultimate goal just as easy as UT can? Of course.

IMO the kid has made his decision and anyone looking at the current situation and being unbiased can't think he made a bad one. Just let it be. Kid is just toying with UT fans at this point. Don't buy into the talk. JMO

 

[DaddyChad]

It shouldn't. We should take our focus onto Sweet and whatever other OTs are more likely/reasonable to be Vols. Just think it's very unlikely that we land Richmond.

We have a few spots left and a handful of realistic targets. We can focus on both other OTs and Richmond. You don't pass on the #1 OT on your board that's also from your home state when you're still in it for him.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

Please. Both guys picked up those wins during one of the worst periods in UT history. Muschamp is a joke. Before Dooley, we'd won 3 of last 4 against Richt, including spoiling his 2007 season.

Richt won 5 out of 8 vs Fulmer. His success isn't confined to beating Dooley. Is this not one of the worst periods for UF? They're losing 8 games in a season and losing to a D1-AA team that failed to complete a pass.

 

[VolGee4]

Richt won 5 out of 8 vs Fulmer. His success isn't confined to beating Dooley. Is this not one of the worst periods for UF? They're losing 8 games in a season and losing to a D1-AA team that failed to complete a pass.

I understand this point, but it is obvious that Richt can't compete at a national championship level, even with all of his talent. There have been several times when we played great games with less talent. I will always feel like we can compete with a Richt led team. Just the way it is.

 

[dyllisvol42]

Spurrier did that after several years of being dominant and was considered the top coach in college football at that time. If Freeze is able to do that at Ole Miss, then we can have that conversation -- and I don't think we will ever have that conversation, for what it's worth.

Someone compared Freeze to Fulmer earlier, and that is the perfect example to me. I think it would take some incredible circumstances for him to leave Ole Miss, and I think it would take someone with a gun to make him leave this early.

Ya I suppose that's true. Might be a little different now because it's all about what have you done for me lately and lately freeze and Mullen are two hot names. Good comparison to freeze and fulmer

 

[sjt18]

If Jones is the right coach, the East is ripe for UT to have a period of dominance. UGA will be what it is as long as Richt is there... and I doubt he leaves until he wants to.

UF is the real danger. If they hire a competent coach then they're an automatic threat. IMHO, Jones is done losing to Muschamp whether he stays or goes.

 

[DaddyChad]

Richt won 5 out of 8 vs Fulmer. His success isn't confined to beating Dooley. Is this not one of the worst periods for UF? They're losing 8 games in a season and losing to a D1-AA team that failed to complete a pass.

Florida still had more talent on that team versus a team with no Oline. Tennessee is closing that talent gap. UF probably does get a better coach eventually but I like our chances if the talent gap isn't so wide.

 

[sjt18]

Spurrier did that after several years of being dominant and was considered the top coach in college football at that time. If Freeze is able to do that at Ole Miss, then we can have that conversation -- and I don't think we will ever have that conversation, for what it's worth.

Someone compared Freeze to Fulmer earlier, and that is the perfect example to me. I think it would take some incredible circumstances for him to leave Ole Miss, and I think it would take someone with a gun to make him leave this early.

I don't know what sentimental attachment Freeze has for Ole Miss... but if he gets a better offer then he better do like Franklin and take it. Ole Miss isn't Vandy... but they're closer to Vandy than making a sustained run in the top tier. What he is doing and has done is pretty incredible. I like Freeze and wish the timing had been so that he could have been hired at UT. But it is beginning to look like his '13 recruiting class was an anomaly. His '14 class ranked 10th in the SEC. His current class sits at 11th and is behind on commits.

Of course if they finish this season strong then they'll start sniping recruits from other programs... but they have some major work to do. Their success hasn't helped yet.

IMHO, they are inhibited by location, facilities, in state talent, and history.

 

[Harvester]

I don't believe Drew flips at the end of the day.

However, I have a hard time believing he is just trolling. All reports indicate that he greatly respects Butch and it would seem a slap in the face to him otherwise. I also still don't get all the unofficial visits on his own dime if he just wanted to troll.

 

[NashVOL93]

Some may disagree but I think those tweets are bad news. Not to get too far into this but he's talking about doing what's best for his future, not his present, and the wisdom of whether he should follow his heart. Pretty clear that while his girlfriend is doing the Lord's work to try to get him to Knoxville he considers her the present for him, not the future..

JMO. Just how I read them

 

[VolGee4]

I don't know what sentimental attachment Freeze has for Ole Miss... but if he gets a better offer then he better do like Franklin and take it. Ole Miss isn't Vandy... but they're closer to Vandy than making a sustained run in the top tier. What he is doing and has done is pretty incredible. I like Freeze and wish the timing had been so that he could have been hired at UT. But it is beginning to look like his '13 recruiting class was an anomaly. His '14 class ranked 10th in the SEC. His current class sits at 11th and is behind on commits.

Of course if they finish this season strong then they'll start sniping recruits from other programs... but they have some major work to do. Their success hasn't helped yet.

IMHO, they are inhibited by location, facilities, in state talent, and history.

You needed to stop after your first sentence. He was born in Oxford and raised in Senatobia. A hometown guy. That is what is sentimental.

He will most likely get a raise. He very well may consider other jobs, but he is the type that could stay as long as he wants as long as they are competitive.

 

[Atzar]

Some may disagree but I think those tweets are bad news. Not to get too far into this but he's talking about doing what's best for his future, not his present, and the wisdom of whether he should follow his heart. Pretty clear that while his girlfriend is doing the Lord's work to try to get him to Knoxville he considers her the present for him, not the future..

JMO. Just how I read them

Or Ole Miss is presently the better team, but he thinks we have the brighter future?

This is the danger with Twitter - just a series of vague statements that could be applied to nearly anything. There's no context at all. For all we know Richmond could have been worried about getting bad gas if he decided to eat at his favorite Mexican joint.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Some may disagree but I think those tweets are bad news. Not to get too far into this but he's talking about doing what's best for his future, not his present, and the wisdom of whether he should follow his heart. Pretty clear that while his girlfriend is doing the Lord's work to try to get him to Knoxville he considers her the present for him, not the future..

JMO. Just how I read them

I've never saw this playing out as good news for our Vols. I know UT fans want to try and see it happening, but for me it's just not going to go our way. The kid selected a special day to commit to his future college to honor a friend. If he then de-committed, what is he doing to that "special day"? Just something to think about. It was Ole Miss the day he announced and it's going to stay that way IMO.

 

[SeanJean]

There's a really good chance Ole Miss finishes the season with just 1 loss less than we do. I could see us at 7-5 and Ole Miss at 8-4. How you finish means a lot heading into bowl season and NSD.

 

[NashVOL93]

For all we know Richmond could have been worried about getting bad gas if he decided to eat at his favorite Mexican joint.

That's a legitimate concern

 

[Nashvegas31]

People stalk every tweet too much. No reason to interpret every single thing they say when most of the time it's not about football. It's usually a rap song, girl or social situation

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

There's a really good chance Ole Miss finishes the season with just 1 loss less than we do. I could see us at 7-5 and Ole Miss at 8-4. How you finish means a lot heading into bowl season and NSD.

Who do they have left on their schedule besides Miss St?

 

[SeanJean]

Who do they have left on their schedule besides Miss St?

Arkansas.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

I understand this point, but it is obvious that Richt can't compete at a national championship level, even with all of his talent. There have been several times when we played great games with less talent. I will always feel like we can compete with a Richt led team. Just the way it is.

I won't disagree that he's underachieved on a national level. UF is as much a thorn in his side as they are for us, no matter who thier coach is. They piss the bed when playing them. I also agree we find a way to compete with them year in and year out but we've also failed to do much more than "compete" since he's come on board. That series has taken a drastic turn since the Goff and Donnan eras.

 

[sjt18]

Florida still had more talent on that team versus a team with no Oline. Tennessee is closing that talent gap. UF probably does get a better coach eventually but I like our chances if the talent gap isn't so wide.

If Jones is the guy and continues to recruit well then UF has given him a head start.

FSU being good helps as well. Auburn raids FL for players. If Miami could improve then UT could have a period of success over UF.

 

[DaddyChad]

I don't know what sentimental attachment Freeze has for Ole Miss... but if he gets a better offer then he better do like Franklin and take it. Ole Miss isn't Vandy... but they're closer to Vandy than making a sustained run in the top tier. What he is doing and has done is pretty incredible. I like Freeze and wish the timing had been so that he could have been hired at UT. But it is beginning to look like his '13 recruiting class was an anomaly. His '14 class ranked 10th in the SEC. His current class sits at 11th and is behind on commits.

Of course if they finish this season strong then they'll start sniping recruits from other programs... but they have some major work to do. Their success hasn't helped yet.

IMHO, they are inhibited by location, facilities, in state talent, and history.

Agreed. Some of the top tier jobs especially a Michigan or UF are almost like NFL jobs. No matter what the attachment to the school or area the attraction of actually advancing your career is a big deal. Also agree that Ole Miss is likely at their peak right now.