Daniel Lincoln named ESPN all american

#26
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BruceAlmighty19 said:
I'd figure that first team all-american kickers wouldn't miss two field goals in the SEC championship
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Wasn't one of those from 51 yards? It's hard to get too worked up about a kicker missing a 51 yard field goal attempt. Lincoln was pretty solid for us most of the year.
 
#30
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I'm all for congratulations, but I just don't get it. He, correctly, wasn't even the All-SEC kicker.
 
#32
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BigPapaVol said:
I'm all for congratulations, but I just don't get it. He, correctly, wasn't even the All-SEC kicker.
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That was the thought crossing my mind...if he had kicked a little more solid near the end of the year, though...I think that it might have been his.

Congrats nonetheless. (though...is this an announcer's award of AA ... or an actual sanctioned (panel) ESPN award?)
 
#33
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StunnA N' Orange said:
Name a freshman kicker who's performed better this year?
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I know zilch about kickers nationally and couldn't tell you which are freshmen or otherwise. I think Lincoln had a solid freshman season, but he's not, IMO, an AA. Hell, he wasn't even on the Groza award list, nor was he the All-SEC kicker.

You know as well as I, that you would be happier trotting out David from LSU than Lincoln, especially after the 2 misses (1 a chippy) in the SECCG.
 
#35
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volfanbill said:
forgetting the fact that your LSU boy missed a 30 yd FG too?
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not at all. I'd take David all day long over Lincoln.

did you forget that we punted about 1,000 times this year when a 48-52 yard field goal was available. Some of that was wind, most of it was CPFs lack of confidence.
 
#36
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BigPapaVol said:
not at all. I'd take David all day long over Lincoln.

did you forget that we punted about 1,000 times this year when a 48-52 yard field goal was available. Some of that was wind, most of it was CPFs lack of confidence.
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do you know that David's career long is 49? Or that he only had about a 62% success rate last year? This year he was at 78%, while Lincoln was at 75%. I'm not saying Lincoln is the best, but David has nothing on Lincoln.
 
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volfanbill said:
do you know that David's career long is 49? Or that he only had about a 62% success rate last year? This year he was at 78%, while Lincoln was at 75%. I'm not saying Lincoln is the best, but David has nothing on Lincoln.
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Again, I know nearly nothing about kickers, but I do know that our coach has little confidence in our kicker from outside 45 yds and that has to be for a reason. I'm not at all hyping David because I know little about him. I do think I'd be happier with him than Lincoln at the end of a game with a 51 yarder.

Since you're being stat boy, David made 78% of his kicks and Lincoln 75%. Which is better?
 
#38
#38
Lincoln was 70% from 40-49 yds, meanwhile david was 66%. So tell me which is better?
 
#40
#40
good job answering the question. Fulmer would've punted just as many times with David doing the kicking. Just admit you've tabbed the wrong guy as your guy this time.
 
#41
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BigPapaVol said:
clearly the guy that made 78% was better.
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I think that completely depends on where they were each asked to kick the majority of their kicks from. I don't know the answer to that question...but if you drive up your percentage on chip shots, then percentage may not be a good indicator. I am impressed with Lincoln's percentage from 40-49 yards...that is good for a college kicker (freshman or not).
 
#42
#42
tradition is right. Lincoln kicked one more +50 yarder than David and that makes all the difference. if UT doesn't kick that one, lincoln finishes with a 78% success rate, just like David.
 
#43
#43
how about this? go look at Lincoln at crunch time. Check him out over the last 4-5 ballgames. Had he not fallen off the world when it mattered, I would grant you that he is the better kicker.

Since the start of the SC game, Lincoln appears to have fallen off considerably. All of those games were tight affairs with our season on the line and the guy went 8/14? How's that make the stat line look?

We can all make stats say just about anything, but this kind of taper off is an issue. He was incredible for the first 2/3 of the season. That masks the issues over the last 1/3.
 
#44
#44
I think that it is worth reminding ourselves that the discussion isn't about whether or not Lincoln is a good kicker - but whether he is a 1st team AA kicker at this point.

He had a great season..and if he continues along this path, we'll be in good hands and steal a few games before he gets out of here.

I'll be more than happy to ditch the AA talk - Congrats on a great season, Daniel!
 
#45
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TennTradition said:
I think that it is worth reminding ourselves that the discussion isn't about whether or not Lincoln is a good kicker - but whether is a 1st team AA kicker at this point.

He had a great season..and if he continues along this path, we'll be in good hands and steal a few games before he gets out of here.

I'll be more than happy to ditch the AA talk - Congrats on a great season, Daniel!
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agreed, but the late season dip concerns me.
 
#46
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BigPapaVol said:
how about this? go look at Lincoln at crunch time. Check him out over the last 4-5 ballgames. Had he not fallen off the world when it mattered, I would grant you that he is the better kicker.

Since the start of the SC game, Lincoln appears to have fallen off considerably. All of those games were tight affairs with our season on the line and the guy went 8/14? How's that make the stat line look?

We can all make stats say just about anything, but this kind of taper off is an issue. He was incredible for the first 2/3 of the season. That masks the issues over the last 1/3.
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He is from Florida...do you think that the colder temperatures could have began to affect his game? Because....he made some tough kicks up to that stretch, but I will give you...he didn't look as good near the end of the season as he did from the beginning to the middle. (This wouldn't explain the missed chip shot in the CG, obviously...just speculation..)
 
#47
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let's not forget that the missed FGs late in the season were all over 40 yards though except for the SECCG.
 
#48
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TennTradition said:
He is from Florida...do you think that the colder temperatures could have began to affect his game? Because....he made some tough kicks up to that stretch, but I will give you...he didn't look as good near the end of the season as he did from the beginning to the middle. (This wouldn't explain the missed chip shot in the CG, obviously...just speculation..)
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I think the missed chip shot was a confidence thing because he had started to struggle. If the weather caused the slide, maybe we should ask that the GA Dome be heated next season.
 
#49
#49
volfanbill said:
let's not forget that the missed FGs late in the season were all over 40 yards though.
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to my exact point earlier that CPF had no confidence in those ranges.

Pedestrians can make the 30+ kind, scholarship kickers are there because they can make 40+ yarders when it matters.
 
#50
#50
and i still stand by my point that your boy David is no better in those ranges
 
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