Recruiting Forum: Football Talk XIV

[Vols4us]

What has Dobbs done so far? Beat a UK team that lost to WKU last year?

And then there is this. Good point. It hasn't happened until it happens. Wins are what matters.

 

[Wickman]

What has Dobbs done so far? Beat a UK team that lost to WKU last year?

Clearly he's more developed than last year. That's intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer.

 

[Dust10]

Bama v UT without Dobbs 56-0ish. Bama v UT with Dobbs 34-20. Bama v UT with Dobbs for 60 mins 31-27ish.

 

[VolGee4]

No, just a freshman and a guy with a torn ACL.

Lol. I was going to post the same thing about Gilliam.

 

[nashvol1]

Bama v UT without Dobbs 56-0ish. Bama v UT with Dobbs 34-20. Bama v UT with Dobbs for 60 mins 31-27ish.

Not sure that close but a good point.

 

[Vol knight]

Clearly he's more developed than last year. That's intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer.

The person I was quoting was talking about Dobbs having a better resume than Worley. How can he have a better resume?

 

[nashvol1]

I don't think any of the pro Dobbs guys think Worley is bad. Put Worley on GA and he is a really good QB. With our constraints on the O Line, Dobbs brings an added element that simply makes our offense better. Play to strengths that help weaknesses.

 

[nashvol1]

The person I was quoting was talking about Dobbs having a better resume than Worley. How can he have a better resume?

Other South Carolina last year (thank you North), they are about the same. Most of Dobbs was a TRUE freshman.

 

[Wickman]

The person I was quoting was talking about Dobbs having a better resume than Worley. How can he have a better resume?

You're incorrect. He was simply stating Worley's resumè was not impressive in it's own right.

 

[Vol knight]

Bama v UT without Dobbs 56-0ish. Bama v UT with Dobbs 34-20. Bama v UT with Dobbs for 60 mins 31-27ish.

Good ole "what ifs" (except the 2nd score).

 

[JAllen18]

Clearly he's more developed than last year. That's intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer.

I think he looks more poised obviously. There are some accuracy issues there, but he has mobility and arm strength.

South Carolina will put the spy on Dobbs and force him in the pocket. The south carolina game will tell a lot about Dobbs and how much he has improved.

 

[amazingGRACE]

I don't think any of the pro Dobbs guys think Worley is bad. Put Worley on GA and he is a really good QB. With our constraints on the O Line, Dobbs brings an added element that simply makes our offense better. Play to strengths that help weaknesses.

I don't agree with that. Last year behind a great pass blocking OL, he still held onto the ball wayyyy too much, still had 0 awareness of what was going on around him, & still couldn't throw guys open.

I'll applaud his toughness all day & his willingness to fight, he's just not an SEC caliber QB.

 

[Wickman]

I think he looks more poised obviously. There are some accuracy issues there, but he has mobility and arm strength.

South Carolina will put the spy on Dobbs and force him in the pocket. The south carolina game will tell a lot about Dobbs and how much he has improved.

Completely agree. I don't agree with the arguement that media members are making that Bama was not prepared for Dobbs. They are incorrect

 

[zhangliao04]

Everyone realizes Dobbs was a TRUE freshman last year?

Doesn't matter. Should have played like Tyler Bray/Jameis Winston/Johnny Manziel. No excuses!!!

 

[nashvol1]

I don't agree with that. Last year behind a great pass blocking OL, he still held onto the ball wayyyy too much, still had 0 awareness of what was going on around him, & still couldn't throw guys open.

I'll apaud his toughness all day & his willingness to fight, he's just not an SEC caliber QB.

Worley is a better QB this year than last year. He is hurt and not athletic enough to make up for a hopeless line. Better than Mason.

 

[Vol knight]

You're incorrect. He was simply stating Worley's resumè was not impressive in it's own right.

Sorry, I read it wrong.

 

[jordan4vols]

Hearing on the radio online saying that Dobbs only looked good because Bama wasn't prepared for him. And it's possible that Dobbs will revert to how he looked against Missou and Vandy last year.

This is so laughable that people and radio personalities can't admit a guy had a good game. So they are trying to sell that Saban....the best coach in college football....couldn't adjust during halftime or during the game to a mobile qb sophomore whom he had film on from the previous year and probably game planned for since Butch said mid week if Justin couldn't go both he and Peterman would play.....Sure makes total sense.

 

[nashvol1]

Doesn't matter. Should have played like Tyler Bray/Jameis Winston/Johnny Manziel. No excuses!!!

I hope this is sarcasm.

Manziel and Winston were redshirts.

Bray had senior receivers in Jones and Moore. Also a pretty good tight end.

 

[Dust10]

Good ole "what ifs" (except the 2nd score).

For sure. But I'm pretty confident in the first outcome without Dobbs though. The 3rd outcome could have went any way.

 

[Vol knight]

For sure. But I'm pretty confident in the first outcome without Dobbs though. The 3rd outcome could have went any way.

Another what if, if Worley had been playing and was in his pre 3rd quarter of UGA game form, I'd say we lose 34-24.

 

[HialeahGator]

I am a Justin Worley Fan. He is one tough kid.. IF he is healthy, I don't mind him being out there against SC.

As far as Bama not being ready for Dobbs-- if they paid attention at all, they would have thought it a possibility and prepared for it. (I even saw twitter posts by Bama fans being a bit frightened by the fact that Dobbs might play instead of Worley) Also, I can't believe that a team like Bama couldn't adjust to a running quarterback.

With Bama its like facing a pitcher the first time through the line up. Once they see a QB the second time around they bottle him up and cause numerous turnovers. Happen vs Tebow, Garcia, Wallace, and JFB. They lost yr one vs Tebow, Garcia and JFB. Also in the only games vs Cam and Marshall.


Results seem to support this notion.

 

[zhangliao04]

I hope this is sarcasm.

Manziel and Winston were redshirts.

Bray had senior receivers in Jones and Moore. Also a pretty good tight end.

100% sarcasm, brutha.

Also, I hate it when ESPN calls Manziel and Winston "freshmen."

 

[nashvol1]

100% sarcasm, brutha.

Also, I hate it when ESPN calls Manziel and Winston "freshmen."

Agree. Not the same thing. You could start calling first time Junior QBs "freshmen"

 

[HialeahGator]

The person I was quoting was talking about Dobbs having a better resume than Worley. How can he have a better resume?

I said his body of work didn't call for a benching bc Dobbs played a good 3 quarters vs Bama.

 

[AV_12]

You're incorrect. He was simply stating Worley's resumè was not impressive in it's own right.

Bingo