I formation or Spread?

To spread or not to spread?

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#26
#26
justingroves said:
You play the cover 2 and demolish WRs trying to catch those crossing routes.

The two deep safety look discourages the deep throws and then the LBs take care of their spots. It's not that hard to do.
It's all execution and not overthinking.

Groves was a DE converted to OLB before the UF game. He nearly blew the whole offense of UF up by himself.
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Florida should have rolled out Tebow and flooded one side of the zone with WR's. There would have been someone open.
 
#28
#28
justingroves said:
The three man front would be ate up by the running game. You'd never have to attempt a pass.

Put a premium on fast, athletic LBs and a DL that just disrupts the OL's blocking assignments.

McKenzie is the first step towards this. He's versatile enough to drop back into zone coverage or stick his nose in there on run support.
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It's not really used as a 3 man front in practice. Everyone always brings a LB, that's what makes it useful. In pass happy spread offenses a LB is always rushing the QB but he doesn't know which one, so it messes up his rthymn. Timing is everything.
 
#30
#30
oklavol said:
It's not really used as a 3 man front in practice. Everyone always brings a LB, that's what makes it useful. In pass happy spread offenses a LB is always rushing the QB but he doesn't know which one, so it messes up his rthymn. Timing is everything.
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Then you leave a hole in pass coverage.

Execution and timing are keys to any D.
 
#31
#31
It's not what you do, it's how you do it.

I'd rather have great talent than a great playbook. As long as you've got top-shelf personnel who go out and execute their assignments, you'll be successful.
 
#33
#33
I heard Muschamp give an interview in ATL, and they talked about the Fla. game, he said he had the front line stunt on just about evey snap to confuse the Fla. line. It worked, I think...........
 
#35
#35
justingroves said:
And a hole in coverage.

If they are manned up or in zone there will be a hole in coverage.

Stay in a 4 man front and stunt and twist. Same difference.
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In a 3-3-5 or a 4-2-5 you can man up in against a spread formation with 5 WR. In a 4-3-4 you can't, unless you want a LB covering a WR. Playing a zone is ok, as long as they dont roll out and flood one side of the zone.
 
#37
#37
Jaytrain5 said:
It's not what you do, it's how you do it.

I'd rather have great talent than a great playbook. As long as you've got top-shelf personnel who go out and execute their assignments, you'll be successful.
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Great talent is nice, but not a constant, give me solid talent, "great leadership", and great teachers, and I'll take my chances.
 
#39
#39
oklavol said:
No, you have 5 DB's in the game. 3 CB and 2 Safeties.
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But it opens up the middle to quick slants. And most of the time you go man all the way across the board and you dont get pressure the QB will find an open WR.

I agree with Justin. a 4-3 Cover 2 is the best way to go.
 
#41
#41
oklavol said:
In a 3-3-5 or a 4-2-5 you can man up in against a spread formation with 5 WR. In a 4-3-4 you can't, unless you want a LB covering a WR. Playing a zone is ok, as long as they dont roll out and flood one side of the zone.
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If the QB rolls outand the defense is in a zone, the defense is supposed to flow with the WR's and QB across the field with the roll out.
 
#42
#42
vols kick balls said:
But it opens up the middle to quick slants. And most of the time you go man all the way across the board and you dont get pressure the QB will find an open WR.

I agree with Justin. a 4-3 Cover 2 is the best way to go.
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And 5 DB's will get killed against the run.
 
#45
#45
How man of you actually pay attention?

We don't really run alot of different plays than we used to, but we use several spread type formations. We don't have a fullback, and line up in the shotgun very often.

While the end result and the plays/routes wrs run hasn't changed much, the formations have changed quite a bit in recent years, especially since Cut came back. Not all of them, of course, but alot of them have.

Point is at times we run a variation of both of these.
 
#48
#48
orangetd88 said:
How man of you actually pay attention?

We don't really run alot of different plays than we used to, but we use several spread type formations. We don't have a fullback, and line up in the shotgun very often.

While the end result and the plays/routes wrs run hasn't changed much, the formations have changed quite a bit in recent years, especially since Cut came back. Not all of them, of course, but alot of them have.

Point is at times we run a variation of both of these.
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We run shotgun quite a bit. Almost every team does. Most of the time we are in a form of the I formation or Ace formation though.

And I was talking about spread option, not just shotgun 4-5 wide.
 
#49
#49
I voted yes to the spread only because I want to see some of the formations continue to be implemented into our existing offense.
 
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