'15 TN OT Drew Richmond (Former Ole Miss commit)

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probably not the thread for this talk but I am not really afraid of Mullen at Florida.

I think Mullen is solid but I don't think he is elite. Let this year play out before we decide Mullen is the second coming...they have some tough games left on the schedule.
 
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couple of guys that I work with, season ticket holders and donors, both stated two years ago that they absolutely loved Hugh......my guess is Coach Freeze will be paid what he is worth and will stay in Oxford. Who wouldn't want to live in that sleepy little college town on a couple million per year....
 
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VolGee4 said:
I am just not sure it is about the money with Freeze. But, we will wait and see. Sure, you want to challenge yourself at a Top 20 job, but he was born in Oxford and raised in Senatobia. He has roots there and has friends and connections in northern MS and even Memphis. If he leaves, those relationships back home will be different. With the conference money, OM can pay at least 3.5-4.0, and he will basically be a hero at OM. The money won't be that much more at another school, especially if you don't meet expectations and are in the pressure cooker. JMO.
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I agree with what you said BUT most successful coaches are wired to want to succeed at the highest level possible. Perhaps Freeze wants to challenge himself, perhaps he feels he can be more successful routinely with a recruiting area like UF, perhaps the laughable ease of the Big Ten appeals to him. You just never know but Ole Miss will never be considered a big time job and that is more than a lot of great coaches can deal with.
 
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If anyone jumps it'll be Mullen to UF. Freeze is getting quality players without a problem, bs doesn't have to go far to do it. He loves Ole Miss and has resurrected that program in only a few years. He won't leave his guys, whereas Mullen basically loses his entire offense and defense, especially if Prescott leaves early.

The writing is on the wall. Mullen to UF (also giving the fan base who they want).
 
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The VQ guys keep saying this is an uphill battle with Richmond because of

a. distance from home
b. Ole Miss influence around him

Know what they never say? Ole Miss is Drew's choice. Pretty clear that someone other than Drew is calling the shots in his recruitment. Whether that is his mother or someone else I don't know.

It's pretty clear here what we have to do. 1. Get some UT influence around him 2. Win over mother and convince her distance shouldnt be the top priority.
 
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OrangeHammer said:
If anyone jumps it'll be Mullen to UF. Freeze is getting quality players without a problem, bs doesn't have to go far to do it. He loves Ole Miss and has resurrected that program in only a few years. He won't leave his guys, whereas Mullen basically loses his entire offense and defense, especially if Prescott leaves early.

The writing is on the wall. Mullen to UF (also giving the fan base who they want).
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Except that Foley (you know the guy doing the coaching search) doesn't want Mullen supposedly.
 
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We really don't even need Freeze to leave Ole Miss. Just rumors he is leaving may be enough to convince Momma Richmond to let Drew come to UT.
 
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1. UF hires Bob Stoops
2. Michigan hires Les Miles
3. LSU hires Hugh Freeze
4. Oklahoma hires Art Briles
5. Baylor hires Chad Morris
6. Ole Miss hires Mark Stoops
7. Kentucky gives up football
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You mean he might have to retire in Florida instead of Mississippi? Who would ever think to do that? LOL!

I'm just messing with you. I don't care what he does. I don't consider Ole Miss a long term threat regardless of who their coach is. I actually hope Florida keeps Muschamp. I just think this belief that Freeze wouldn't leave for anything hasn't been put to the test yet.
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You are right that it hasn't been put to the test yet, but that is why all of us are offering opinions. It is just that his situation is a little different than most. Certainly, Florida is alot nicer place to retire than MS (although I know people who have retired to Oxford and Lafayette County), but home will always be home. He simply can't move all of his friends and family from his early days, and that will never change. I could retire in another state, but I have been in Memphis and the suburbs for so long, that I will always have important friends and people here. Just the way it is. You would like to be able to return comfortably without any hostility.
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
1. UF hires Bob Stoops
2. Michigan hires Les Miles
3. LSU hires Hugh Freeze
4. Oklahoma hires Art Briles
5. Baylor hires Chad Morris
6. Ole Miss hires Mark Stoops
7. Kentucky gives up football
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LOL. That is good.

But, the problem is #1. I heard Dennis Dodd on radio a couple of days ago, and Stoops was brought up. UF has tried to get him multiple times even when their program was great. He wouldn't do it now. He has it easy in the Big 12.
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
1. UF hires Bob Stoops
2. Michigan hires Les Miles
3. LSU hires Hugh Freeze
4. Oklahoma hires Art Briles
5. Baylor hires Chad Morris
6. Ole Miss hires Mark Stoops
7. Kentucky gives up football
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Bob Stoops is having way too much fun beating up on unmotivated and young SEC teams and proclaiming the SEC weak to jump over to the dark side.
 
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Dust10 said:
Bob Stoops is having way too much fun beating up on unmotivated and young SEC teams and proclaiming the SEC weak to jump over to the dark side.
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Bert also dogged the SEC when he was at Wisconsin.

I think Stoops is ran his course at Oklahoma and jumps back to UF.

I also don't think he does that great at UF either.
 
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westside said:
The VQ guys keep saying this is an uphill battle with Richmond because of

a. distance from home
b. Ole Miss influence around him

Know what they never say? Ole Miss is Drew's choice. Pretty clear that someone other than Drew is calling the shots in his recruitment. Whether that is his mother or someone else I don't know.

It's pretty clear here what we have to do. 1. Get some UT influence around him 2. Win over mother and convince her distance shouldnt be the top priority.
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The only thing that bothers me about that is how many times he has made the 5 hr 45 minute drive(that's what it takes me with one stop for gas in Cookeville) over the last few months and he is apparently doing it again this weekend. For them to make such a big deal out of that drive, he sure makes it a lot (and on his own dime).

I think (b) has to be the real reason here.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The only thing that bothers me about that is how many times he has made the 5 hr 45 minute drive(that's what it takes me with one stop for gas in Cookeville) over the last few months and he is apparently doing it again this weekend. For them to make such a big deal out of that drive, he sure makes it a lot (and on his own dime).

I think (b) has to be the real reason here.
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His mom can't drive to watch every game. I'm guessing that's where the distance problem is.
 
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There's no doubt that Freeze will be paid in the offseason. But it will be Ole Miss that pays him. He's at Ole Miss for the long haul. The only thing that could lure him away in the future is the NFL. Ole Miss is a dream job for Freeze.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
When has Mullen given any indication he likes UF? Also he just signed an extension through 2018. UF has as much of a chance of landing Mullen as Texas did Saban, zero.
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I'm not a Finebaum leg-humper, but he touched on this idea today in regards to Michigan coming after Butch. The best point he made was 'why would Butch Jones bring in back-to-back top 5 ranked recruiting classes in the most elite league in college football at a school with facilities that only 4 or 5 others schools can match and then leave before he does anything with them'.
 
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NoogaVFL said:
I'm not a Finebaum leg-humper, but he touched on this idea today in regards to Michigan coming after Butch. The best point he made was 'why would Butch Jones bring in back-to-back top 5 ranked recruiting classes in the most elite league in college football at a school with facilities that only 4 or 5 others schools can match and then leave before he does anything with them'.
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I couldn't agree more...
 
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LynxVol said:
Freeze isn't going to leave Ole Miss after this season. People need to just drop that one.
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I agree. If anyone is a man of his word its Hugh Freeze. Not to mention, he is a Mississippi boy. He isn't leaving Oxford. Look for Coach Mark Hudspeth from UL Lafayette to be a strong candidate for the FLA HCing job.
 
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lilesrt said:
I agree. If anyone is a man of his word its Hugh Freeze. Not to mention, he is a Mississippi boy. He isn't leaving Oxford. Look for Coach Mark Hudspeth from UL Lafayette to be a strong candidate for the FLA HCing job.
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I've also heard Jim Mora from UCLA mentioned for the UF job.

I'd love for them to extend Muschamp's contract though.
 
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Anyone else think Butch was talking directly to Richmond in his comments monday referring to representing your home state and if you choose not to, you'll watch us win a lot of games here?
JMO
 
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