Drastic action needed on Ebola

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#707
I reckon I've said it before, but it bears repeating: the CDC is at a minimum incompetent and arguably, much worse, fraudulent. Here are their own comments on how ebola must be handled:

"BSL-4 builds upon the containment requirements of BSL-3 and is the highest level of biological safety. There are a small number of BSL-4 labs in the United States and around the world. The microbes in a BSL-4 lab are dangerous and exotic, posing a high risk of aerosol-transmitted infections. Infections caused by these microbes are frequently fatal and without treatment or vaccines. Two examples of microbes worked with in a BSL-4 laboratory include Ebola and Marburg viruses."

This is taken from the CDC's own site, here: CDC LC Quick Learn: Recognize the four Biosafety Levels (look at tab 10)

They also say this (from the same link, tab 11):

"In addition to BSL-3 considerations, BSL-4 laboratories have the following containment requirements:

Laboratory practices
•Change clothing before entering.
•Shower upon exiting.
•Decontaminate all materials before exiting.

Safety equipment
•All work with the microbe must be performed within an appropriate Class III BSC , or by wearing a full body, air-supplied, positive pressure suit.

Facility construction
•The laboratory is in a separate building or in an isolated and restricted zone of the building.
•The laboratory has dedicated supply and exhaust air, as well as vacuum lines and decontamination systems."

A couple of things:
- First off, it seems pretty clear that ebola can be aerosolized. The CDC says so itself on its own web site. That's not the same as airborn, but if someone sneezes and you walk through it, well, hello infection.
- Does anyone think the hospital in Dallas is following the strict CDC protocol for ebola? Obviously not, which explains why at least one nurse has already gotten infected. How many others will share this same fate?
- Here are CDC's recommendations for how a hospital should treat ebola: Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Hospitalized Patients with Known or Suspected Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever in U.S. Hospitals | Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC. Read it for yourself. I can't help but notice a vast difference between what they recommend in their labs and what they recommend in the hospital setting. Frauds.
 
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Just to add to my previous post, my favorite part is this:

From the lab procedures: "All work with the microbe must be performed within an appropriate Class III BSC , or by wearing a full body, air-supplied, positive pressure suit." (again, here: CDC LC Quick Learn: Recognize the four Biosafety Levels at tab 11)

From the hospital procedures: "All persons entering the patient room should wear at least: ◦Gloves
◦Gown (fluid resistant or impermeable)
◦Eye protection (goggles or face shield)
◦Facemask"
(from here: Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Hospitalized Patients with Known or Suspected Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever in U.S. Hospitals | Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC)
 
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I see someone is hard at work copying and pasting from their favorite conspiracy/histrionic/conservative sites...

And I say that as someone who thinks we should shut down all travel from West Africa until the danger has subsided.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I see someone is hard at work copying and pasting from their favorite conspiracy/histrionic/conservative sites...

And I say that as someone who thinks we should shut down all travel from West Africa until the danger has subsided.
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Indeed I did copy it, as most people would never otherwise come in contact with that information. Does that subtract from the veracity of the content in some way?
 
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jamesd1628 said:
Indeed I did copy it, as most people would never otherwise come in contact with that information. Does that subtract from the veracity of the content in some way?
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Yes, because anyone with an ounce of sense that reads that sees that the obvious intent is to try to take CDC comments about the capabilities of a level 4 center to deal with something airborne, and to morph that into the claim that Ebola therefore is airborne.

Its a pretty pathetically obvious ploy.

Its like saying that Neyland Stadium could house a jumbo jet, therefore it does.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
Indeed I did copy it, as most people would never otherwise come in contact with that information. Does that subtract from the veracity of the content in some way?
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Lawyer's aren't trained to profess truth. They're trained on how to get it thrown out when it doesn't fit the narrative.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes, because anyone with an ounce of sense that reads that sees that the obvious intent is to try to take CDC comments about the capabilities of a level 4 center to deal with something airborne, and to morph that into the claim that Ebola therefore is airborne.

Its a pretty pathetically obvious ploy.

Its like saying that Neyland Stadium could house a jumbo jet, therefore it does.
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I didn't claim it was airborn. In fact, I specifically said that it wasn't. I simply quoted the CDC's statement that ebola poses "a high risk of aerosol-transmitted infections." That's the CDC's quote, not mine.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
I didn't claim it was airborn. In fact, I specifically said that it wasn't. I simply quoted the CDC's statement that ebola poses "a high risk of aerosol-transmitted infections." That's the CDC's quote, not mine.
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LG's just mad because his boy Obama is directly responsible for this happening in the US.
 
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davethevol said:
You admit that his refusal to shut down travel to and from Ebola stricken countries has caused this problem, correct?
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Sounds like you only think this falls on the POTUS.

Many pooches were screwed by varying degrees of power here, but it's still not a big enough deal. Influenza is a much bigger problem. Did you fall victim to the H1N1 scare as well?
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Sounds like you only think this falls on the POTUS.

Many pooches were screwed by varying degrees of power here, but it's still not a big enough deal. Influenza is a much bigger problem. Did you fall victim to the H1N1 scare as well?
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This case in the US does fall on the president. He alone has the ability to enact travel restrictions. It's also been shown several times over that the mortality rate of ebola is leaps and bounds worse than flu. 70-90% of people that contract ebola die from it. Somewhere around 3% of people that contract the flu die from it. We are also finding that ebola is easier to contract than we were originally lead to believe.
 
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