Peyton Manning sits on trainers face????

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kcvols1 said:
Your bucket don't hold water. You don't lay hands (and definitely not your taint) on a woman without express permission.

Peyton was lucky social media wasn't around, but it may not have made a difference. Training room ain't the student union.
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If there was a rape attempt then your bucket would be overflowing. But since that was never an issue your bucket is leaking profusely.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
All of this diatribe has skirted around the obvious issue that the "victim" is a female working in a male athletic locker room. While I am not condoning Peyton's actions, if this woman was naive enough to think that such activities could never take place in this environment it is hard to feel sorry for her when it does occur. Her being so hurt and indignant is an obvious money grab attempt.
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Not really. Doctors, nurses, physical therapists, and trainers treat male and female athletes all the time regardless of their own gender and athletes don't shove their butts in their faces as alleged. Back then was a bit wilder but where you're going is trying to justify a wrong action by a 20 year old Peyton by saying she's a woman and therefore she should've seen such events coming. Yes, anyone with a brain should be able to see that things aren't always going to be mature working around college kids but that doesn't mean Peyton wasn't wrong for doing it.
 
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kcvols1 said:
Your bucket don't hold water. You don't lay hands (and definitely not your taint) on a woman without express permission.

Peyton was lucky social media wasn't around, but it may not have made a difference. Training room ain't the student union.
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Read back a bit please.

And you are correct....the locker room is a much more private and privileged place than the student union.
 
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UTProf said:
Not really. Doctors, nurses, physical therapists, and trainers treat male and female athletes all the time regardless of their own gender and athletes don't shove their butts in their faces as alleged. Back then was a bit wilder but where you're going is trying to justify a wrong action by a 20 year old Peyton by saying she's a woman and therefore she should've seen such events coming. Yes, anyone with a brain should be able to see that things aren't always going to be mature working around college kids but that doesn't mean Peyton wasn't wrong for doing it.
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For a professor your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired. I said I didn't condone his actions and never attempted to justify what he did. And most of those medical professionals you mentioned do the treatments in their offices or treatment rooms in a fairly private environment,not in a locker room.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
If there was a rape attempt then your bucket would be overflowing. But since that was never an issue your bucket is leaking profusely.
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Lol! Be easy with that metaphor. They're not for everyone.

If it went down like she said, this was sexual assault. Lack of witnesses makes this a bad criminal case, but still gets her a libel payday for him putting that in his book.
 
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kcvols1 said:
Lol! Be easy with that metaphor. They're not for everyone.

If it went down like she said, this was sexual assault. Lack of witnesses makes this a bad criminal case, but still gets her a libel payday for him putting that in his book.
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Just for the record, most sexual assaults don't have any witnesses.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
Just for the record, most sexual assaults don't have any witnesses.
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Exactly. And in the whole training room, the Florida judge found Manning guilty of slander based on a letter from one other athlete and a testimony from another guy who said he didn't see the event.

Manning acted inappropriately and paid for it. To claim he did more with little evidence is conjecture at best.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
For a professor your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired. I said I didn't condone his actions and never attempted to justify what he did. And most of those medical professionals you mentioned do the treatments in their offices or treatment rooms in a fairly private environment,not in a locker room.
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For a squirrel, your reading comprehension is a bit below what I'd expect. If you don't wish to condone his actions you really should stay away from the argument you made.

As for those medical professionals... do you really not realize that pretty much all of the ones I listed are employed by the university? Think they're no doctors, physical therapists, or trainers there? And you keep using the term locker room like it's a HS locker room. Even back then we had topflight facilities and multiple athletes in multiple sports both male and female were treated by these trainers.
 
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I really don't have a dog in this fight but when I gave my true opinion which was an acronym for nobody gives a - well you know - it got deleted by the higher powers. Therefore I jumped into the fray assuming they wanted me to give one.
 
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90% of people around here don't even know what this is about. Another 9% believe whole heartedly they know what they want to know. And 1% were actually there and remember the events.
 
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UTProf said:
For a squirrel, your reading comprehension is a bit below what I'd expect. If you don't wish to condone his actions you really should stay away from the argument you made.

As for those medical professionals... do you really not realize that pretty much all of the ones I listed are employed by the university? Think they're no doctors, physical therapists, or trainers there? And you keep using the term locker room like it's a HS locker room. Even back then we had topflight facilities and multiple athletes in multiple sports both male and female were treated by these trainers.
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*there're
 
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UTProf said:
For a squirrel, your reading comprehension is a bit below what I'd expect. If you don't wish to condone his actions you really should stay away from the argument you made.

As for those medical professionals... do you really not realize that pretty much all of the ones I listed are employed by the university? Think they're no doctors, physical therapists, or trainers there? And you keep using the term locker room like it's a HS locker room. Even back then we had topflight facilities and multiple athletes in multiple sports both male and female were treated by these trainers.
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Have you ever been in a locker room?
 
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UTProf said:
Have you ever been out of your tree?

Pro tip: I tend to respond to posters with regard to how they respond to me.
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Ok Prof.
Meant to quote the guy who was comparing a locker room to the student union (Manning vs Winston). No comparison IMO.

What say you, Prof?
 
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This thread...
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OCVol82 said:
You guys seen this? First I have heard of it..

Peyton Manning is Lucky Social Media Wasn’t Around in 1996 When He Allegedly Sat on a Female Trainer’s Face | The Big Lead
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I remember seeing a story that he mooned another player, didn't think the trainer saw it, but she did, and brought up a big commotion about it. This is the first I have heard of the rest of it. Also, I think this was the only time I ever saw anything like that related to Manning, not 4 or 5 different things like Winston has done. Winston is out of control, and by just slapping his hand, they are sending a message that it is OK for him to keep doing that stuff.
 
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UTProf said:
Have you ever been out of your tree?

Pro tip: I tend to respond to posters with regard to how they respond to me.
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You didn't answer the question.

h tip: I tend to respond to answers to direct questions instead of senseless blathering.
 
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newyorkvol said:
Ok Prof.
Meant to quote the guy who was comparing a locker room to the student union (Manning vs Winston). No comparison IMO.

What say you, Prof?
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They're not at all the same, imo. We're talking a somewhat private area versus a very public area and two very different incidents. Hell, I don't even think the incident with Peyton, regardless of whether it was a mooning or something more, makes a suitable example for the author to say he was lucky social media wasn't around - the entire state knew about it. Social media definitely wasn't needed for everyone and his brother, sister and grandmother to have heard about it. The article is pure clickbait at every angle.
 
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The article here seems to have borrowed heavily from the USA Today story that ran in Nov 2003 (Google Jamie Whited if you are interested) except that it printed the entire letter from the track athlete, Malcolm Saxon. He doesn't give an account of what happened in the letter but does give ominous suggestions such as,"Your celebrity doesn't mean you can treat folks that way. Do the right thing here."...Mike Rollo didn't witness what happened but does say that he was the first to use the word "mooning" to describe the incident. Her lawyer claims that she reported the incident to a Sexual Abuse clinic but that is just her word - nothing more or less. Why didn't she call the police if she felt she had been sexually assaulted? That question is never answered. The USA Today article also notes that they couldn't find another athlete to corroborate Manning's statement in his book that Whited had a vulgar mouth. It certainly doesn't shed Manning (as a then 19 year old) in a positive light...but it leaves out pertinent information as well. She definitely did see this as an opportunity to cash in but continued to work as a trainer at UT until she was able to do so.
 
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