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Grand Vol said:
A taser, by definition, is a pain compliance device. A less than lethal method of bringing a subject from an active resistance level or even a assault to a compliant level. And typically a very effective tool.

So yes, if the job requires the application of a taser, a taser will be used. And truth be told, it's generally a lot safer to use than a baton or even OC as the after effects aren't nearly as bad. But the ultimate goal is compliance in any situation requiring the use of force.
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Cool. But you got the point right? It's not really about the taser.
 
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Grand Vol said:
You are correct. It's the subject actions and officer's risk perception that are the determining factors.
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That's not my point. I ask simple questions like "do you disagree?" and you just answer with questions and evade. It's tiresome.

I'd like to find common ground to see if you can actually agree on something with me.
 
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n_huffhines said:
That's not my point. I ask simple questions like "do you disagree?" and you just answer with questions and evade. It's tiresome.

I'd like to find common ground to see if you can actually agree on something with me.
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I've agreed with you plenty of times on plenty of things. But you do like to argue...

I'm still not sure what your point is. I did say a taser would be used albeit after meeting certain conditions. So I'm trying to figure out exactly what point you are getting at.

Yes, those with tasers will use tasers providing certain conditions are met. Now why are you asking?
 
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n_huffhines said:
There is a lot more to private security than concerts.

If SWAT operations were the norm, you might have a point. Dealing with wasted people at a concert can get hairy.

If you swung on a private security guard at a concert you might get beat up a bit, definitely roughed up to some degree, and escorted out.

Same concert, but police officers are the security...what happens when you swing on the officer? I would say it's been nice knowing you.
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Dude, people assault officers every freaking day. Multiple times
 
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tim said:
If you cant figure it out I cannot explain it.
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We're talking about the difference between private security and police work. When you say cops get assaulted everyday, it has no meaning to me because the same can be said for private security forces.

So explain to me your point, or did you not understand the context of the discussion?
 
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Toujours Pret said:
Of course they aren't, the security guards don't shoot people, ****heads like your boys who think they're SAS commandos do, regardless of innocence.
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n_huffhines said:
We're talking about the difference between private security and police work. When you say cops get assaulted everyday, it has no meaning to me because the same can be said for private security forces.

So explain to me your point, or did you not understand the context of the discussion?
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Was'nt necessarily responding to you...But, the mere fact that there are not more media exploited/created incidents by LEO's daily should serve as an indicator that there are very few incidents even though there are a multitude of assaults on PO's daily.
 
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Reminds me of the down syndrome guy the cops killed at the movie theater. Not seriously hurt in this case:

Maldonado said the whole situation got out of hand because he wasn’t allowed to calm his son down.

“I’m his dad. I know how to deal with him. He was screaming for help and screaming for Daddy,” he said.

Ryan’s threats continued, and police thought it best to commit the boy for evaluation.

“We sort of own the situation, and we have to make a determination what is in the best interest of the child,” Massie said.

"We" being the police, not the boy's parents. As the father told local reporters, "I am his dad, I know how to deal with him."
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Autistic 10-Year-Old Handcuffed, Pinned to Back of Hot Police Car: Why? - Hit & Run : Reason.com
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
What about the cop that did a sting on the kid with down's for peddling weed?

I'm sure it was covered here, but I'm lazy.
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LOL....Have not seen that one. But without the facts I'd say the cop did his job and the courts will handle it.
 
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tim said:
LOL....Have not seen that one. But without the facts I'd say the cop did his job and the courts will handle it.
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You should look it up. It's a really, really sad story.

And sorry, I meant Autistic. Testicular cancer pub crawl today. They're gonna love me at work tonight.
 
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tim said:
LOL....Have not seen that one. But without the facts I'd say the cop did his job and the courts will handle it.
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The cop set the kid up. The cop went undercover as a high school student and befriended a retarded kid and asked him to get him weed (not just asked, but begged and hounded this special needs kid that had 0 friends). The cop that did this is scum and needs a beating.
 
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davethevol said:
The cop set the kid up. The cop went undercover as a high school student and befriended a retarded kid and asked him to get him weed (not just asked, but begged and hounded this special needs kid that had 0 friends). The cop that did this is scum and needs a beating.
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Autism isn't the same thing as retarded.
 
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davethevol said:
The cop set the kid up. The cop went undercover as a high school student and befriended a retarded kid and asked him to get him weed (not just asked, but begged and hounded this special needs kid that had 0 friends). The cop that did this is scum and needs a beating.
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Sheesh... Is there a link to this story about the officer begging the autistic kid? If so who determined the officer begged him?
 
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