'15 FL QB/WR/DB (anything he wants) Torrance Gibson

[Burger]

Yeah, he is trying his hardest to sell that our offense isn't set up for the QB to run the ball. All the other stuff goes in circles.

Let's take the basic dive play. Whether its ran to the weakside or the strong side, its still called the dive. Ones not called dive and the other called purple bunny. Whether you're reading the strong or weakside, the play is still called the read option or zone read.

Our offense is meant to be balanced like most west coast offenses. We run the west coast. We use the run to set up the pass or the opposite. We use the short pass to set up the deep pass. The read option is 1 play in our playbook, not our scheme.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

It is different reads. It is more different than you think.

So is that YouTube link indicative of the offense CBJ wants to run?

 

[Kurtastrophe]

Let's take the basic dive play. Whether its ran to the weakside or the strong side, its still called the dive. Ones not called dive and the other called purple bunny. Whether you're reading the strong or weakside, the play is still called the read option or zone read.

Our offense is meant to be balanced like most west coast offenses. We run the west coast. We use the run to set up the pass or the opposite. We use the short pass to set up the deep pass. The read option is 1 play in our playbook, not our scheme.

NCAA Football has had that "flip play" option since the original playstation. The play never changed names once flipped. Haha

 

[Kurtastrophe]

*raises hand* Tux, may I speak?


I found this on another recruiting board. Apparently, this is from an AU mod on an Auburn board. BOOM?

Thanks for some actual recruiting news.

 

[Burger]

It is different reads. It is more different than you think.

All you're doing by reading the other end is flipping the play. Let's compare it to the zone style blocking stretch play. The tackle takes on the end with the TE's help. The guard and center take on the strongside tackle. The backside guard gets help from his neighboring tackle while the weakside end roams free.

If the play is ran to the weakside the tackle takes on the weak side end by himself, the guard and center take on the weakside tackle, and the other guard and tackle takes on the strong side guard while the TE grabs a linebacker.

The play is still called the stretch.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

I really don't care what they call the offense. Looks to me like the QB will try to tuck and keep it 4-5 times a game. It's not complicated. The other 75 plays a game the other weapons on offense need to be the ones making the plays by either a handoff or a pass. QB carries it 4-5 times a game for 4-5 yards a carry. Don't make it out to be more than it is. JMO

 

[Burger]

NCAA Football has had that "flip play" option since the original playstation. The play never changed names once flipped. Haha

You get my point. Name doesn't change regardless of direction.

 

[eazyTD]

Bump just because this may have gotten lost in the shuffle of Tux

From an AU mod

"There are so many domino pieces that have to play out, but I just don't see Torrance Gibson coming to Auburn"

Which QB do you see Auburn landing?

"Either Francois or Deandre Jackson or no one else besides Queen

I think Gibson is a silent to Tenn."

Can't wait to hear Leb's thoughts on Gibson potentially being a silent commit and already having his spot locked up. (Like it was in jeopardy in the first place lol

 

[delfonic]

Zone Read = Zone-blocking scheme
Read Option (as run by Malzahn) = power/man blocking scheme

Here's a good article. Durkin’s Football 101: Zone & Man Blocking Schemes « CBS Chicago

 

[Brillovol]

They are different. It depends on which defensive end that they are reading.

In our zone read, our QB reads the defensive end away from the play side.

The read option is reading the play side defensive end.

They may sound alike, but they are different. The read option is more QB running oriented, where as the read option has less QB running.

The QB has an option to keep the ball in both offenses, but the zone read is a quicker read and one used with the QB as a weapon more so than the zone read.

You don't like it, argue with several football coaches who have discussed it at length in various publications.

Lol, even Tux got confused. There's no hope for us mere mortals, folks. Might as well pack this one up and head to the house.

 

[Abvolsfan92]

LV do you just want the worst for UT. I just can't understand why you wouldn't want Tennessee to land an elite player like Gibson.

 

[Burger]

Zone Read = Zone-blocking scheme
Read Option (as run by Malzahn) = power/man blocking scheme

Here's a good article. Durkin’s Football 101: Zone & Man Blocking Schemes « CBS Chicago

That's all? You can run any other running play with either blocking scheme and they're called the same thing.

 

[roosterjbh]

I really don't care what they call the offense. Looks to me like the QB will try to tuck and keep it 4-5 times a game. It's not complicated. The other 75 plays a game the other weapons on offense need to be the ones making the plays by either a handoff or a pass. QB carries it 4-5 times a game for 4-5 yards a carry. Don't make it out to be more than it is. JMO

Come on LV, you know we ran a lot of plays out of this, and depending on what the defensive end does it could be a lot more of 4 or 5 times a game. Plus this simple read could lead to huge plays from a mobile QB, including the 40 yd run from Dobbs against KY this year. How many times did we see Worley give the ball to Rajon to get stuffed at the line when he had an easy first down? Not saying Dormady can't do it, but with TG this would be a HUGE weapon to have, and would only make it easier for Jalen and Scott on the dive play.

 

[Kurtastrophe]

Bump just because this may have gotten lost in the shuffle of Tux

From an AU mod




Can't wait to hear Leb's thoughts on Gibson potentially being a silent commit and already having his spot locked up. (Like it was in jeopardy in the first place lol

The question is, was he a silent before or AFTER Bruce committed? That is crucial, after all.

 

[eazyTD]

The question is, was he a silent before or AFTER Bruce committed. That is crucial, after all.

Sarcasm so heavy that the blue font wasn't needed.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

Ignoring facts and reality are your prerogative.

Funny because none of your posts seems to be facts.

 

[Kurtastrophe]

Sarcasm so heavy that the blue font wasn't needed.

Eh, I'm new to this blue font business.

 

[005]

Blue font is dumb

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

LV do you just want the worst for UT. I just can't understand why you wouldn't want Tennessee to land an elite player like Gibson.

Of course not. Kind of why I like the 2 QBs we have committed and would like to see "a 3rd QB spot" used at a position of need. Star gazing can get you in trouble in recruiting. Lane Kitten might be able to speak on that just a lil bit if you ask him.

 

[delfonic]

That's all? You can run any other running play with either blocking scheme and they're called the same thing.

No. You can not run any "other running play" with either blocking scheme. This concept runs counter to how plays may be named in video games you have played in the past.

The blocking scheme dictates the running plays that you can use. Zone blocking typically dictates that the running plays used are either outside zone or inside zone/one cut running plays. You will not see teams run a traditional off-tackle or a dive from a zone block scheme. It's simply not how the scheme works.

Gus Malzahn's read option, to which Tux is referring, uses a traditional power blocking scheme. He runs a power running game out of a spread offense. It's really what makes what he's doing so different and difficult to defend.

I still do not agree with everything Tux has said concerning zone-reads and the read option. Typically they are one and the same. However, he did mention Malzahn previously and it was worth pointing out that Malzahn's read option is significantly different.

 

[VolLee]

Deleted cause I can't internet.

 

[tnvols72]

The question is, was he a silent before or AFTER Bruce committed. That is crucial, after all.

according to LV , once Bruce committed that was the end for TG. I think LV/Tux are just in love with QD. regardless of TG he may never see the field. Nothing is guaranteed.

 

[VolBall43]

Sooooo I'm a lurker, but what I have gathered is that if your post to like ratio is less than 3 to 1 then you either post way too much useless poo,or you're a half empty kinda person who no one really cares for. Idk some of these "negavols" personally nor have I been here long enough to judge anyone, but in all honesty I come home and pop a cold one and get on here just to see all of the great things happening here at UT daily to be upended by someone who is a "realist"

In my honest opinion it's really hard to be a realist when you bleed orange. I've always had the mentality that no matter how much talent we have on the field, there's always a chance. Maybe just try to take a half full approach sometimes and see where this fan base can go. Rise to the top...

This guy gets it^

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Bump just because this may have gotten lost in the shuffle of Tux

From an AU mod




Can't wait to hear Leb's thoughts on Gibson potentially being a silent commit and already having his spot locked up. (Like it was in jeopardy in the first place lol

I'll play along. "TG is a UT silent" says the random AU board.

With Bruce taking the 2nd WR spot, I'd guess UT would not add a 2nd RB(No Kamara), and TG would be the TE for 2015. Hope he can put on 25-30LBS quickly. Maybe we see him competing as a blocker on the end of the line. Of course, I would not count on it.

 

[Kurtastrophe]

according to LV , once Bruce committed that was the end for TG. I think LV/Tux are so in love with QD. regardless of TG he may never see the field. Nothing is guaranteed.

It is baffling. I really like QD, but I would never turn down TG. Just like I would never turn down Sweat if he wanted to come here.