Riley Ferguson appears to be gone

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perico said:
Not all of them. I was there quite a bit and it wasn't that much of a difference. Dobbs has a lot of talent, maybe more long term to being a successful quarterback in FBS as he has the maturity as well as the athletic talent to start after Worley is out of eligibility.

I wasn't shocked because Riley's attitude was becoming a distraction. Watch the interaction the QBs have had with the media. Dobbs, Worley, and Peterman see themselves as a unit. Riley always saw himself as an individual.

Case in point: look at the difference in the demeanor between Riley and Nathan Peterman at the end of spring. Peterman's praise of Worley and Dobbs was very apparent in every single interview he gave.

Riley, on the other hand, wouldn't even congratulate Dobbs on winning the QB competition drill that was done for the fans at the scrimmage and had a real sarcastic response. The other guy were/are team guys first. Fergy was about Fergy.
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Bet he kicks puppies too. :yes:
 
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Rockytoptalker said:
The fact that Peterman is still here and Ferguson now isn't speaks volumes... However, I'd like to wish Riley good luck with his future endeavors.
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Peterman never puts himself above his teammates. He wants to play, but he is very close with Dobbs and Worley and has done a lot to help Joshua progress on the field.
 
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JamesBenUT said:
Basilio listener's input (SIAP)

Tony...was told two days ago of the possible Riley Ferguson transfer via his grandfather who lives here in the Tri-Cities area - Blountville, TN. Riley has been influenced by a former Matthews High School teammate - Uriah Lemay - a former four-star WR recruit who just two weeks ago announced his transfer from Georgia. Lemay's announcement came on the heels of a March arrests along with three Bulldog teammates for theft by deception. I'm being told that Lemay and Ferguson have contrived a plan to reunite at the University of Charlotte. It's also interesting to note that Lemay's older brother Christian, also announced his transfer from Georgia after last season and in January indicated he would enroll at Jacksonville State. Christian Lemay was the starting QB at Matthews ahead of Ferguson until Lemay got into trouble and Ferguson took over in his sophomore season. The Ferguson family wanted to meet with Coach Butch Jones before a final decision was made, but it sounds as if Riley is determined in his decision and if a meeting occurs, it will only be for the Ferguson family to ask for a release, which Jones has already told them he will not grant. Ferguson's grandfather and the rest of the family are not in agreement with the decision and the grandfather said he was 'going to Knoxville to kick Riley's ass.'

...and forgot to add...Riley's brother Zach is WR at Charlotte. You probably knew all this but I'd sat on it for two days and was about to bust. Keep up the good work...lots of listeners and growing in the Tri-Cities.
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My father-in-law coached Riley's grandfather when he played high school basketball at Chattanooga Kirkman. I have no doubt at all that that is exactly what his grandfather said. Bobby Ferguson was a great basketball player and my father-in-law tells soome pretty cool stories about him.
 
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Whatever this kid decides to do, good luck to him. 99.9% of us on this site have never come close to being in his shoes. I could easily see how him and this LeMay kid conjured up an idea about go to Charlotte and being this amazing QB/WR duo as well as with Riley's brother. These kids think in the now and not in the future, all of them were the BMOC in HS and expect the exact same thing when they arrive in college (see Gunner Kiel). Sometimes it just takes them some time to mature and realize that things in life aren't handed to you and hard work usualy pays off. Hopefully he realizies this sooner rather than later.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
Whatever this kid decides to do, good luck to him. 99.9% of us on this site have never come close to being in his shoes. I could easily see how him and this LeMay kid conjured up an idea about go to Charlotte and being this amazing QB/WR duo as well as with Riley's brother. These kids think in the now and not in the future, all of them were the BMOC in HS and expect the exact same thing when they arrive in college (see Gunner Kiel). Sometimes it just takes them some time to mature and realize that things in life aren't handed to you and hard work usualy pays off. Hopefully he realizies this sooner rather than later.
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Every poster on this site has been in his shoes in their respective line of work at one point or another. It's life. We all make decisions like this on a daily basis. In a year or 2, we won't remember his name. The world turns. Good luck to Riley. Go Vols.
 
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VolAllen said:
This is great, in my opinion. It means the pressure is on the staff to lock down an elite QB for 2015 and we might actually end up with a 3-4 year starter just as Alabama, UGA, and South Carolina have had for the past 8 years. This is our chance.
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Dobbs will be harder to pass than you seem to think. The only thing really missing from his game last year besides experience was arm strength. He seems to be resolving that with hard work.
 
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sjt18 said:
Dobbs will be harder to pass than you seem to think. The only thing really missing from his game last year besides experience was arm strength. He seems to be resolving that with hard work.
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Notice I said a 3 to 4 year starter. I expect Dobbs to start in 2015 and 2016. I think he's going to develop into a very special athlete. The recruit probably wouldn't get the start until his Soph season, after Dobbs is gone. That's what I meant.
 
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perico said:
Not all of them. I was there quite a bit and it wasn't that much of a difference. Dobbs has a lot of talent, maybe more long term to being a successful quarterback in FBS as he has the maturity as well as the athletic talent to start after Worley is out of eligibility.

I wasn't shocked because Riley's attitude was becoming a distraction. Watch the interaction the QBs have had with the media. Dobbs, Worley, and Peterman see themselves as a unit. Riley always saw himself as an individual.

Case in point: look at the difference in the demeanor between Riley and Nathan Peterman at the end of spring. Peterman's praise of Worley and Dobbs was very apparent in every single interview he gave.

Riley, on the other hand, wouldn't even congratulate Dobbs on winning the QB competition drill that was done for the fans at the scrimmage and had a real sarcastic response. The other guy were/are team guys first. Fergy was about Fergy.
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Honestly, none of this really disqualified him from being a great QB. Most great ones are prima donnas that their team to one extent or another tolerate because they can win.

I'd rather deal with a team guy too. You'd rather believe that a guy comes with the total package of being an "alpha male" while still being a "team guy". But that's a pretty difficult balance. I doubt anyone would have cared about the things you cite if Ferguson had done the things necessary to take the job.
 
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VolAllen said:
Notice I said a 3 to 4 year starter. I expect Dobbs to start in 2015 and 2016. I think he's going to develop into a very special athlete. The recruit probably wouldn't get the start until his Soph season, after Dobbs is gone. That's what I meant.
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OK. Gotcha. Good post.
 
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VolAllen said:
Every poster on this site has been in his shoes in their respective line of work at one point or another. It's life. We all make decisions like this on a daily basis. In a year or 2, we won't remember his name. The world turns. Good luck to Riley. Go Vols.
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It is painfully obvious that not every poster on this site has much experience in a work organization.

I know what you are saying... but some of the lack of understanding about the way things work is profound.
 
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Biopsyman said:
Another Dooley recruit...
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Butch signed Riley so he wanted him on this roster. They still feel he has the best up side of anyone else on the roster now but he has to want it.

Butch could have cut him loose had he had any doubts about his abilities.
 
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Keyser Soze said:
If Worley plays well this year... I wouldn't be surprised for Dobbs to redshirt and still have 3 to play!
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After we get up by 30-40 points in some games this year (such as bama, fla, ga,) he'll want to get some more playing time under his belt.
 
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LWSVOL said:
Butch signed Riley so he wanted him on this roster. They still feel he has the best up side of anyone else on the roster now but he has to want it.

Butch could have cut him loose had he had any doubts about his abilities.
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Any chance to the Rumor of him maybe cooling down and coming back or has that shipped completely sailed?
 
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sjt18 said:
It is painfully obvious that not every poster on this site has much experience in a work organization.

I know what you are saying... but some of the lack of understanding about the way things work is profound.
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Haha you're right. As much as I post on here, some would think that I'm unemployed. Funny thing is, I actually own and operate two locksmith businesses in South Carolina....I'm just an addict of the VolTalk! I'm always on mobile but i'm always working while VolNationing lol
 
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Keyser Soze said:
If Worley plays well this year... I wouldn't be surprised for Dobbs to redshirt and still have 3 to play!
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Are you out of your mind? We're down to 2 truly viable options are QB with Peterman a distant third, and you actually think that our 2nd string QB (for now) is gonna be taken out of the mix? Did you not pay attention last year when we had all 4 QBs injured and were playing the last 2 gms with a banged up true freshman. For your sake I hope you're just trolling here. Otherwise, you have zero credibility.
 
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LWSVOL said:
Butch signed Riley so he wanted him on this roster. They still feel he has the best up side of anyone else on the roster now but he has to want it.

Butch could have cut him loose had he had any doubts about his abilities.
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He never was technically a Butch Jones recruit. Riley committed to Dooley's staff. Much like most staff's that take over a program Butch tried to keep previously committed recruits on board so to not have a completely disastrous class. Having the best upside is one thing, having the demeanor to go with it is quite another. Dooley took guys that had a lot of growing up to do and did little to help them on their journey. Butch seems to go after team oriented guys who contribute to help the program and not just themselves. I'm not sure if Butch had the entire 2013 recruiting season to work with if Riley would've ended up at UT with other options on the table.
 
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KBVol said:
Are you out of your mind? We're down to 2 truly viable options are QB with Peterman a distant third, and you actually think that our 2nd string QB (for now) is gonna be taken out of the mix? Did you not pay attention last year when we had all 4 QBs injured and were playing the last 2 gms with a banged up true freshman. For your sake I hope you're just trolling here. Otherwise, you have zero credibility.
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LOL... I don't think you have to Declare a redshirt before the season. He could be there every game ready to step in. But if Worley plays well... and there isn't a need for him, ie Worley is injured, you could always redshirt him. I may be wrong about declaring a redshirt, but to my knowledge it doesn't have to be stated before the year.
 
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sjt18 said:
Honestly, none of this really disqualified him from being a great QB. Most great ones are prima donnas that their team to one extent or another tolerate because they can win.

I'd rather deal with a team guy too. You'd rather believe that a guy comes with the total package of being an "alpha male" while still being a "team guy". But that's a pretty difficult balance. I doubt anyone would have cared about the things you cite if Ferguson had done the things necessary to take the job.
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But those things WERE NECESSARY to take the job, especially when the difference
in on the field performance wa a bit exaggerated. Riley had the best arm of the bunch and could hit all the throws, but Dobbs can as well. Dobbs was arguably stronger at reading the defense and was better running the ball.

Worley may not have the natural tools as Dobbs or Riley, but he's the leader of the team and has the best combo of leadership ability on the field and the intangibles.

If you lead in one direction, you want your teammates to support you and follow. Being a premadonna and expecting to be coddled isn't going to win you the job if you are not head and shoulders above the rest. Fergy may have been talented, but he wasn't good enough to seperate himself from the rest.
 
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