Riley Ferguson appears to be gone

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Voltillyafall said:
Too many posters are concentrating on the back story here...was it this, was it that.

The bottom line, and I mean bottom line is that IF Riley had been #2, he would have stayed. There is nothing else here to concentrate on, to speculate about, etc., other than he knew that he was beaten out by Dobbs. If he had beaten out Dobbs, he'd still be here.

If you've played, you know that feeling that you get when the coach has made his decision, and it's not you. It's the other guy. Riley felt that feeling, didn't think he could change Butch's mind, and decided he'd be better off at another school.

It's just that simple.
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Drops the mic and walks away...... i think you nailed it..
 
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Vercingetorix said:
As far as I know nobody who watches practice has walked out of there thinking that Dobbs was even ahead, much less that the competition between them is already over. The fact that all the writers who cover the team are apparently shocked that Ferguson is walking away seems pretty telling.
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there is a lot more than what happens on the football practice field to being an SEC QB. You have to lead. You have to study lots of film on your own. You have to push workouts for you and other players on your own. You have to hit the weight room. You have to spend time in the play book. The practice field is just part of what an SEC QB has to do.

Those that don't do everything, end up behind others not matter how strong their arm is or how well they run or any other physical attribute.

You have to be committed to the position and the team. If not you likely won't get much consideration from Butch Jones.

No matter what Media or practice observers see.
 
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LWSVOL said:
there is a lot more than what happens on the football practice field to being an SEC QB. You have to lead. You have to study lots of film on your own. You have to push workouts for you and other players on your own. You have to hit the weight room. You have to spend time in the play book. The practice field is just part of what an SEC QB has to do.

Those that don't do everything, end up behind others not matter how strong their arm is or how well they run or any other physical attribute.

You have to be committed to the position and the team. If not you likely won't get much consideration from Butch Jones.

No matter what Media or practice observers see.
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Do you remember after spring practice, butch stated that the competition included what was going on off the field? I suspect fergey was lagging behind both Dobbs and Worley in all areas away from the practice field.
 
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Ferguson is already immortalized by being rostered on EA's last college football video game.
 
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CountVolcula said:
So you don't think it happens?
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You have to elaborate man, you're being too vague. If you mean because of system or offensive style fit then it's a totally different situation, but if you believe that it happens based on only the fact that a coach didn't get the achievement of recruiting the kid personally then that is crazy.
 
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...so I don't really care if this is rehashing something discussed on pages 3-24.

Based on the simple knowledge that Riley is leaving the program (and not really knowing anything else about it), I assume that it is due to either:

1) Academic trouble
2) disciplinary issues
or
3) immaturity/attitude/conflict with teammates or coaches

I say that because by all accounts he is legit #2 (the good kind) right now and has all 4 years left, with the only guy ahead of him being a very mediocre senior.

Input?
 
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LWSVOL said:
there is a lot more than what happens on the football practice field to being an SEC QB. You have to lead. You have to study lots of film on your own. You have to push workouts for you and other players on your own. You have to hit the weight room. You have to spend time in the play book. The practice field is just part of what an SEC QB has to do.

Those that don't do everything, end up behind others not matter how strong their arm is or how well they run or any other physical attribute.

You have to be committed to the position and the team. If not you likely won't get much consideration from Butch Jones.

No matter what Media or practice observers see.
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My point wasn't just about practice; it was about this idea suggested above that Ferguson is leaving because he thinks that Dobbs has already beaten him out long-term, for 2015 and beyond. If that were indeed the case, then leaving now would indeed make good sense. But as far as I know nobody who follows the program closely (albeit from the outside) thought that was the case.

Maybe Jones has made it clear that he expects his QBs to have responsibilities that Ferguson thinks are BS, so he's just decided it's a bad fit and he'll try somewhere else.
 
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ShoalCreekVol said:
...so I don't really care if this is rehashing something discussed on pages 3-24.

Based on the simple knowledge that Riley is leaving the program (and not really knowing anything else about it), I assume that it is due to either:

1) Academic trouble
2) disciplinary issues
or
3) immaturity/attitude/conflict with teammates or coaches

I say that because by all accounts he is legit #2 (the good kind) right now and has all 4 years left, with the only guy ahead of him being a very mediocre senior.

Input?
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Everything in your last paragraph has always just been pure speculation from board members and media that get to watch 5 minutes of practice a day
 
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omghulkhands said:
You have to elaborate man, you're being too vague. If you mean because of system or offensive style fit then it's a totally different situation, but if you believe that it happens based on only the fact that a coach didn't get the achievement of recruiting the kid personally then that is crazy.
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Its just as crazy to say that it wouldn't or couldn't happen
 
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CountVolcula said:
Its just as crazy to say that it wouldn't or couldn't happen
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I'm very confident in saying that it doesn't happen more than 5 percent of the time for division 1 programs. The type of idiocy you are talking about is sub-human intelligence and logic. There are some bad coaches (and bad is relative) out here, but there are many procedures in place for these colleges to make sure they aren't paying out 6 figure salaries to someone who can't figure out you out the square peg in the square hole.
 
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LWSVOL said:
there has never been any doubt who was going to be the starter. that is why Riley is hitting the road.

People put too much stock into coach speak to the media..
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Sure. I've always said Worley would be named the starter, both this year and last. It's a no-brainer of a call for Jones, too. I just don't understand the "I have to play now" mentality. Worley's done after this season and by all accounts the job probably would have been Ferguson's for the taking. That's 3 more years of eligibility. Plenty of time.
 
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I think that he may not have encouraged to leave but not discouraged either. I think the coaching staff realized that one of the young 3 (Peterman, Dobbs, or Ferguson) had to leave to further entice Torrence Gibson to come aboard in 2015.
 
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I am more surprised that CBJ actually kept these 4 for this long. Thats alot of guys trying to earn the top QB spot, something HAD to give.


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The biggest relief is that now our coaches can really focus on Worley and Dobbs and getting them game ready. That whole QB competition was a headache.
 
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BeattieFeathers said:
Do you remember after spring practice, butch stated that the competition included what was going on off the field? I suspect fergey was lagging behind both Dobbs and Worley in all areas away from the practice field.
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I've been around coaches enough to know what they say to media and publicly is not always what is going on behind the scenes.

yes, he said that..
 
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vtvol98 said:
I think that he may not have encouraged to leave but not discouraged either. I think the coaching staff realized that one of the young 3 (Peterman, Dobbs, or Ferguson) had to leave to further entice Torrence Gibson to come aboard in 2015.
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they have spent this past weekend into today talking with him about staying and expectations. was his choice to leave but they were more than willing for him to remain here..
 
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omghulkhands said:
Everything in your last paragraph has always just been pure speculation from board members and media that get to watch 5 minutes of practice a day
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Well, he has 4 years left, so at least a little wasn't speculation, but yeah the rest is. I've just figured that it was SO prevalent (the speculation) that there must be fire with all that smoke.
 
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Does Ferg sit a year or will he choose to play right away at the FCS level. Might he be a Moc-in-waiting a la BJ Coleman?
 
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