2014 NFL Draft Thread

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bleedorange0037 said:
I'd be willing to bet that the Dolphins aren't the only employer who would have a problem with their employees posting homophobic tweets for the whole world to see.
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If everyone on tv can go on and on about how great this is and to continue showing his boyfriend rubbing his arm then kissing each other I sure hoped we still live in a country where a differing view was welcome, clearly we don't. On this single topic in America right now only one way of believing is allowed.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Dolphins fine, suspend Don Jones from offseason program | ProFootballTalk

Fined, suspended and off to Godell's re-education camp. What terrible thing did he do, tweet "OMG" and "horrible"
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To be fair, the dolphins are also on massive damage control after what happened last year; anything they see as even somewhat potentially similar to it or as controversial they're going to try to nip in the butt immediately.

They got on Pouncey for posting something about what the new draft picks were going to "buy everyone."
 
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Jeff Garcia’s advice to Jets: Get rid of Tim Tebow now


“If there’s going to be competition at the position, it’s not going to come from Tim Tebow,” Garcia said. “Having Tebow there (last season) just became more of a distraction, more of a circus show. Obviously, it’s their decision. But from an outsider looking in, having Tebow there doesn’t bring anything positive. It just brings distraction.”


Jeff Garcia’s advice to Jets: Get rid of Tim Tebow now | ProFootballTalk


Now lets change this a bit

Jeff Garcia’s advice to Rams: Dont put Sams on the team


“If there’s going to be competition at the DE position, it’s not going to come from Sams,” Garcia said. “Having Sams there just became more of a distraction, more of a circus show. Obviously, it’s their decision. But from an outsider looking in, having Sams there doesn’t bring anything positive. It just brings distraction.”



Jeff Garcia would be banned for life from any part of the NFL!
 
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TrueOrange said:
To be fair, the dolphins are also on massive damage control after what happened last year; anything that is even potentially similar to it and/or controversial they're going to try to nip in the butt immediately.
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Agreed but do you think it would have been different if a Jags player made same tweet? No way.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Agreed but do you think it would have been different if a Jags player made same tweet? No way.
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It wouldn't have made it as high on espn's front page, imo. It's part Sam-story, part-last year's dolphin's story that drove it up.

(On a side note regarding the dolphins this weekend, they got on Pouncey for posting something about what the new draft picks were going to "buy everyone.")
 
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volmaverick said:
Look at Michael Sam's combine results. They are quite mediocre. Then compare them to VPI defensive end James Gayle's combine results. Gayle went undrafted. Here's the comparison:

Michael Sam James Gayle

40-yd dash 4.91 sec 4.70 sec
Bench Press 17 reps 26 reps
Vertical Jump 25.5 in 37.0 in
Broad Jump 114 in 122 in
3-Cone Drill 7.80 sec 7.19 sec
20-yd Shuttle 4.70 sec 4.27 sec

Can someone explain to me how it's possible that the Rams could possibly take Sam over Gayle after Gayle beat him in all six categories?
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Gayle even has Gay in his name!
 
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volmaverick said:
Look at Michael Sam's combine results. They are quite mediocre. Then compare them to VPI defensive end James Gayle's combine results. Gayle went undrafted. Here's the comparison:

Michael Sam James Gayle

40-yd dash 4.91 sec 4.70 sec
Bench Press 17 reps 26 reps
Vertical Jump 25.5 in 37.0 in
Broad Jump 114 in 122 in
3-Cone Drill 7.80 sec 7.19 sec
20-yd Shuttle 4.70 sec 4.27 sec

Can someone explain to me how it's possible that the Rams could possibly take Sam over Gayle after Gayle beat him in all six categories?
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Partially because it's not just about combine performance by itself.

But that's also ignoring the possibility that they saw, as an additional positive, that by taking a major player / fan base favorite from Missouri, the state they are located in, they might benefit in some increase viewership.

They are a team that's had numerous blackout issues, competes with another NFL team located in the same state for most of the state's viewership, and gets rumored about moving out to LA almost as much as Jacksonville does.

Just a theory, might not be that much to it, but there's some chance they could have seen it as an additional positive when putting him there on their draft board.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Partially because it's not just about combine performance by itself.

But that's also ignoring the possibility that they saw, as an additional positive, that by taking a major player / fan base favorite from Missouri, the state they are located in, they might benefit in some increase viewership.

They are a team that's had numerous blackout issues, competes with another NFL team located in the same state for most of the state's viewership, and gets rumored about moving out to LA almost as much as Jacksonville does.

Just a theory, might not be that much to it, but there's some chance they could have seen it as an additional positive when putting him there on their draft board.
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Just a theory..the NFL said to the Rams draft Sams or else, your move to L.A. will be rocky
 
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volmaverick said:
Just a theory..the NFL said to the Rams draft Sams or else, your move to L.A. will be rocky
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NFL wouldn't do that. (And really, the Rams don't want to move back to L.A. again, if given the ability to stay and produce feasibly where they are.) Plus they don't really have the power to force teams to move (or stop them really).

Honestly, Goodell is probably hoping an expansion team will be the final result of the L.A. rumors because that pretty much gives him the ability to grant another expansion team to another city to balance out the numbers.


volmaverick said:
It will be the Rams..because of their history there!
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So do the Raiders, but I wouldn't bank on them moving back there either.
 
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volmaverick said:
:eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol:


Roger Goodell said he wanted to see Sams in the NFL(he got it)..did he say that about any other player? Why doesn't he state he wants to see Curt Duncan from Carson Newman in the NFL?
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I was addressing the NFL actively moving a team or forcing a team's move.



And you're getting into public relations here, not actual actions.

If he really wanted Sam in that badly and had such an active hand in forcing teams to draft other players, wouldn't he have ended up some team's Day 2 reach pick rather than a 7th rounder? Why wouldn't he have ended up in a much bigger media market where this would have gotten even more continued publicity?


And, again (since you're not addressing the rest of it) I don't think the NFL wants to move a team itself, let alone one from St. Louis. That's a pretty major media market for them not to have a team in.

But, furthermore, it doesn't give the league as much or as needed of an option of a putting a team in another city if they just move an existing one to L.A.. An expansion team gives the option of not only L.A., but that yet another team would need to be created to better balance out the numbers in each conference and scheduling.
 
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volmaverick said:
Look at Michael Sam's combine results. They are quite mediocre. Then compare them to VPI defensive end James Gayle's combine results. Gayle went undrafted. Here's the comparison:

Michael Sam James Gayle

40-yd dash 4.91 sec 4.70 sec
Bench Press 17 reps 26 reps
Vertical Jump 25.5 in 37.0 in
Broad Jump 114 in 122 in
3-Cone Drill 7.80 sec 7.19 sec
20-yd Shuttle 4.70 sec 4.27 sec

Can someone explain to me how it's possible that the Rams could possibly take Sam over Gayle after Gayle beat him in all six categories?
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That's pretty sad.
 
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TrueOrange said:
I was addressing the NFL actively moving a team or forcing a team's move.



And you're getting into public relations here, not actual actions.

If he really wanted Sam in that badly and had such an active hand in forcing teams to draft other players, wouldn't he have ended up some team's Day 2 reach pick rather than a 7th rounder? Why wouldn't he have ended up in a much bigger media market where this would have gotten even more continued publicity?


And, again (since you're not addressing the rest of it) I don't think the NFL wants to move a team itself, let alone one from St. Louis. That's a pretty major media market for them not to have a team in.

But, furthermore, it doesn't give the league as much or as needed of an option of a putting a team in another city if they just move an existing one to L.A.. An expansion team gives the option of not only L.A., but that yet another team would need to be created to better balance out the numbers in each conference and scheduling.
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I'd like for the NFL to award Expansion teams to Los Angeles and San Antonio
 
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Sam's combine numbers weren't very good, but the combine (in and of itself) doesn't guarantee success or failure (Mike Mamula, anyone?)in the NFL. I see a lot of comments note that Sam compiled 9 or maybe 9.5 of his sacks in three games against "lesser" competition. You know who else only had sacks in three games? Jadaveon Clowney. You know who compiled all of their stats against lesser competition? Anybody from DII and DIII and most any player from the FCS level.

Sam is the first "openly" gay player to enter the league via the draft. When, and if, he plays in an NFL game, he won't be the first gay player to have played in the NFL, and odds are he won't be the only active gay player currently in the league.
 
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Dave1967 said:
I'd like for the NFL to award Expansion teams to Los Angeles and San Antonio
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San Antonio wouldn't be in the mix, especially with there already being teams in Dallas and Houston.

The one thing Goodell's been talking about nearly every year is expanding the league's brand/following outside of the U.S. though...specifically one city in Europe's United Kingdom
 
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TrueOrange said:
San Antonio wouldn't be in the mix, especially with there already being teams in Dallas and Houston.

The one thing Goodell's been talking about nearly every year is expanding the league's brand/following outside of the U.S. though...specifically one city in Europe's United Kingdom
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I don't know if an NFL team would make it in Europe. The World League of American Football and NFL Europe were total failures.
 
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Dave1967 said:
I don't know if an NFL team would make it Europe. The World League of American Football and NFL Europe were total failures.
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They were also D-leagues pretty much (at least the NFL Europe was, that was definitely a summer D-league).

I'm not saying it's a good idea; I'm just saying it's the direction he wants to go and he's made it known a few times now (and unlike teams drafting players, he has some factor/control in this...the owners and I believe the commissioner are the ones who decide about rewarding expansion franchises).


This was from 2013: Roger Goodell on LA or London NFL team first: 'I want both' - CBSSports.com

This was from 2014: NFL: Goodell says London team nearer after triple sellout | GlobalPost
London NFL team nearer, says Roger Goodell
 
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