Not Going to Have "Thugs"? Wha?

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The problem isn't CDT's use of the word thug, he clearly intended it as is defined. Someone with a violent attitude, or lawbreaker. The problem is why such a word is believed to be aimed at the AA community. The use of the word "criminal" would probably have elicited the exact same argument. Rev. Jackson among others smiles everytime a story unfolds that could imply racism, not because they believe in racism but because it will bring them the almighty dollar. That is why racism will never truly die. Until someone comes along who can distance a perceived attitude from a specific race it will continue to be so.

Also, whoever associated CDT and being from Michigan as an attempt to prove he isn't racist is just flat out wrong. Not saying CDT is racist, but having moved to Michigan from Tennessee, I have noticed the further north you go from Detroit the more prevalent racism becomes. It's much worse up here than at any time when I was living in Tennessee.
 
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jspvol76 said:
I personally use the word whippersnapper to describe young adults who step out of line.
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I used to prefer "yellow bellied sidewinders," but the Chinese took offense. Then I went to "wild Indians," and you know how that wound up. Now I call them "hornswogglers." I am a little worried about offending the people who swoggle horns for a living.
 
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The use of the word "thug" became popular in America to describe guys like Al Capone, Bugsy Siegel and the brutish criminals that worked for them in the 1920s and 1930s.

Bugsy was called a "thug" in some of the news stories when he was killed. These guys were also gangsters. But now some people would probably try and label that as racist too.

How many other words are we supposed to stop saying because somehow, everyone ignores their actual, legitimate definition and tries to ascribe something completely different to the word?
 
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VolArmy74 said:
The use of the word "thug" became popular in America to describe guys like Al Capone, Bugsy Siegel and the brutish criminals that worked for them in the 1920s and 1930s.

Bugsy was called a "thug" in some of the news stories when he was killed. These guys were also gangsters. But now some people would probably try and label that as racist too.

How many other words are we supposed to stop saying because somehow, everyone ignores their actual, legitimate definition and tries to ascribe something completely different to the word?
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Let's change the name of Gay Street to Happy Street.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Are troublemakers all white or something?
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"Troublemakers" is a word which means the same thing that (I believe) Tyndall intended, while as far as I know being completely free from any baggage at all. It's silly that we hyperventilate over semantics to the extent that we do, and I agree with most of you guys that it's stupid that "thug" has become yet another word we're supposed to avoid. But the unfortunate fact is that these days it's a word which might alienate some of Tyndall's new constituency, and it was somewhat tone-deaf of him to use it rather than any of its many synonyms right off the bat during his press conference. I'd expect a salesman to be more polished and know his audience better than that.
 
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It's kind of hilarious to watch old white dudes with views on race straight out of the 1950s tie themselves into knots explaining why it's totally okay for them not to join the 21st century with the rest of us. Just own it!
 
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The reason it's being taken that way by some now. This is from an article from someone who actually believes it is racist and here's why according to them.

I’m old enough to remember a time when calling someone a thug really was just a way of saying that a person is brutal and dangerous. But it was adopted as a kind of boast by a certain segment of hip-hop culture back in the early 90s and it stuck, so it’s no surprise that there’s now an inextricable racial subtext to it.
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Thug isn't the "new" N-word. A thug is another term for a criminal. So when you say you don't want thugs you don't want people who won't follow the rules. Last time I checked every race commits crime, albeit some more than others per capita.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Bs thread should be in the politics forum. Rationalize it all you want. There is no consistency with this stuff.
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There's a new rule. It doesn't matter what the "subject" of a thread is about, if a coach utters the word its officially basketball related just the same as a new assistant coach, a decommit, a possible transfer, etc.

Get with the program!
 
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Vercingetorix said:
"Troublemakers" is a word which means the same thing that (I believe) Tyndall intended, while as far as I know being completely free from any baggage at all. It's silly that we hyperventilate over semantics to the extent that we do, and I agree with most of you guys that it's stupid that "thug" has become yet another word we're supposed to avoid. But the unfortunate fact is that these days it's a word which might alienate some of Tyndall's new constituency, and it was somewhat tone-deaf of him to use it rather than any of its many synonyms right off the bat during his press conference. I'd expect a salesman to be more polished and know his audience better than that.
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Maybe he should have said that U.T. wouldn't have any white thugs, because blacks are all incapable of being thugs. It's in their DNA. No, wait......that would single them out for being different.

Maybe we appoint a committee to give its stamp of approval to each and every word that he says, before he says it, or maybe we should just let the man coach, and get off his case.
 
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I guess a bunch of apparel manufacturers and label/sticker manufacturers and "bling" sellers will have to shut down all production of goods and jewelry that uses the word "thug".

Uh oh - has the word "bling" become a racial epithet???
 
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One of my best friends is from NY, NY and he has told me many stories of his Italian upbringing and the "thugs" that he grew up with that were affiliated with the mafia. Sherman trying to steal the word from the Italians....
 
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#147
This is the first line of the Richie Incognito story from the Washington Post, from November 2013, well before anyone called Sherman a thug.

The thug named Richie Incognito needs to be out of the NFL for a long time, maybe even permanently.
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But no one had ever called a white player a thug before according to Sherman.

I do disagree that Sherman should have been called thug. Classless would have been fine.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Maybe he should have said that U.T. wouldn't have any white thugs, because blacks are all incapable of being thugs. It's in their DNA. No, wait......that would single them out for being different.

Maybe we appoint a committee to give its stamp of approval to each and every word that he says, before he says it, or maybe we should just let the man coach, and get off his case.
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You completely missed my point. Enjoy your anger.
 
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