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#876
#876
Any truth to the rumors about SVG being in the mix?


"VolzRumorMill
‏@VolzRumorMill
Just got word from some sources inside the AD that Stan Van Gundy is in the mix to become Tennessee's next basketball coach. #VRM"
 
#877
#877
goonsquad said:
Any truth to the rumors about SVG being in the mix?


"VolzRumorMill
‏@VolzRumorMill
Just got word from some sources inside the AD that Stan Van Gundy is in the mix to become Tennessee's next basketball coach. #VRM"
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There is no way it is true, but if it were I would rob a bank and take the money straight to Hart to pay the man.
 
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#878
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goonsquad said:
Any truth to the rumors about SVG being in the mix?


"VolzRumorMill
‏@VolzRumorMill
Just got word from some sources inside the AD that Stan Van Gundy is in the mix to become Tennessee's next basketball coach. #VRM"
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#879
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Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN · 6h
The SEC has an opportunity with Tennessee and Missouri hires to significantly increase league credibility. Lets see if can take advantage.
 
#880
#880
Both UT and Mizzou have the facilities and ability to take on UK and Florida with the right top name coach. A Kmart blue light special hire just relegates UT into the middle of the pack of nobodies.
 
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Tux said:
Both UT and Mizzou have the facilities and ability to take on UK and Florida with the right top name coach. A Kmart blue light special hire just relegates UT into the middle of the pack of nobodies.
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Or Hart picks the right "Kmart blue light special" and he wins early and often at Tennessee. Maybe he recruits well and has our Vols in the NCAA tourney the next 3 years. Just maybe. :thumbsup:
 
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#882
#882
Is Chris Mack really a strong candidate to consider. I guess I just really never noticed him that much while at Xavier. I'd be happy with White in the end unless Mack would be a good fit for us and considered to be much better than White.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Or Hart picks the right "Kmart blue light special" and he wins early and often at Tennessee. Maybe he recruits well and has our Vols in the NCAA tourney the next 3 years. Just maybe. :thumbsup:
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Here is your problem with hiring a blue light special.

They are relatively unknown to recruits.

How are you going to convince better recruits to come play ball for you when they know nothing about you and don't even know if you can be a successful coach at the next level?
 
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goonsquad said:
Any truth to the rumors about SVG being in the mix?


"VolzRumorMill
‏@VolzRumorMill
Just got word from some sources inside the AD that Stan Van Gundy is in the mix to become Tennessee's next basketball coach. #VRM"
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SVG is in the mix for the Minnesota Timberwolves job. No way we could offer enough $$$.
 
#885
#885
Recruiting nobodies to a nobody school in a lower level conference is different than a no-name coach trying to recruit enough talent to compete with the players at UK and Florida and then the rest of the SEC. While a no-name coach can beat many of the other teams routinely in a lower level conference with the throw away players from the major schools, he is not going to be able to do that with regularity in the SEC.
 
#887
#887
goonsquad said:
Any truth to the rumors about SVG being in the mix?


"VolzRumorMill
‏@VolzRumorMill
Just got word from some sources inside the AD that Stan Van Gundy is in the mix to become Tennessee's next basketball coach. #VRM"
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0 followers on twitter. Seems legit.
 
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k-town_king said:
What is the fascination with these two? Tyndall has a less than impressive resume. He rode a NBA player to two bids in a bad conference. Nothing besides the Faried years. And during them he still went o a CBI one year and missed the postseason entirely one year. I would take White way before Tyndall but he should be a third to fourth tier candidate. He has only coached three years with two NITs and one post season at home.
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From this post alone i forsee that Hart will hire Tyndall. We loves us some fool's gold up in here.
 
#890
#890
Tux said:
Here is your problem with hiring a blue light special.

They are relatively unknown to recruits.

How are you going to convince better recruits to come play ball for you when they know nothing about you and don't even know if you can be a successful coach at the next level?
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A large portion of the UT fanbase(especially on here) felt Butch Jones was a "blue light special" type of "cheap coach". Hart did not want to pony up the dough for a "big name" guy. How did this past recruiting class work out? Where is UT currently ranked in football recruiting? That was with a "cheap" coach and ANOTHER losing season. Most feel CBJ has things headed in the right direction. The basketball team is coming off a sweet16 appearance. The next "cheap" coach has it made huh? :)
 
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#891
Everyone is quick to use Butch Jones as an example. He has not won on the field yet. He has lost. He has recruited well and we all hope and think he will turn our fortunes around. But we do not know yet do we.

Hart was very fortunate, rather, he was very lucky in his hire of a coach who could recruit, because all previous signs did not lend evidence that he was a great recruiter while at UC.
 
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#892
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Tux said:
Everyone is quick to use Butch Jones as an example. He has not won on the field yet. He has lost. He has recruited well and we all hope and think he will turn our fortunes around. But we do not know yet do we.

Hart was very fortunate, rather, he was very lucky in his hire of a coach who could recruit, because all previous signs did not lend evidence that he was a great recruiter while at UC.
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I have long had the opinion that UT recruits itself for the most part. If the coaches are willing to put in the work on the recruiting trail, the talent will be on campus.
 
#893
#893
k-town_king said:
In other words I think White has a good upside. I think Tyndall has had many years to show what he is . A coach who can make the tourney 50% of the time when he has the best player in the league by far. I think he is average. I want a good coach. Not average. Also his teams average about 67 ppg for his career. White's O is way more exciting.
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He wins almost 70% of his games, has taken a team he completely built to the NCAAs multiple times, found a dude no one has heard of and turned him into an NBA player, is averaging 28 wins per season the last two years.

None of those things are average.

Plus, he's only 42 years old. He is in that outstanding spot where he's been a head coach enough years and at enough places to see he can win at multiple stops with his own team, while still being a very young coach.
 
#895
#895
Tux said:
I would much rather have a more established coach, who prospects will recognize.
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So..maybe Tubby?

Because maybe Howland would be the other guy and I honestly doubt he even gets an interview here.

The important thing about Tyndall or White is that they've been recruiting the Southeast for years now. They'll know AAU coaches. And you can say you want about who recruits recognize, but who the AAU guys know is what matters.

In Howlands case, a large number of them purportedly hate him now.
 
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#896
#896
Tyndall could walk in a recruits house wearing a Faried Nugget's jersey and just be like...yeah
 
#899
#899
LebanonVolunteer said:
A large portion of the UT fanbase(especially on here) felt Butch Jones was a "blue light special" type of "cheap coach". Hart did not want to pony up the dough for a "big name" guy. How did this past recruiting class work out? Where is UT currently ranked in football recruiting? That was with a "cheap" coach and ANOTHER losing season. Most feel CBJ has things headed in the right direction. The basketball team is coming off a sweet16 appearance. The next "cheap" coach has it made huh? :)
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The big difference between the hiring of Butch Jones and some of these other Basketball candidates is that Jones WON at every school he went to. He didn't stay long, but in 3 years each time he improved the state of the program and left the school a winner. Hiring a coach that has never won though (like Cuonzo or Dooley) just because they're "cheap" or "up-and-coming" and expecting them to suddenly produce in a more competitive/larger scale conference is a little stupid.

Cal thinks they're hiring a sure fire guy in Cuonzo, but even after coming here he is 1/6 at making the NCAA tourney and 1/12 at winning conference or conference tourney. I'd rather hire a guy that's "cheap" and has at least won his conference, however small it is, 2 or 3 times, than someone who really has never actually done anything, just IMO
 
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#900
#900
fhod_dj_x said:
The big difference between the hiring of Butch Jones and some of these other Basketball candidates is that Jones WON at every school he went to. He didn't stay long, but in 3 years each time he improved the state of the program and left the school a winner. Hiring a coach that has never won though (like Cuonzo or Dooley) just because they're "cheap" or "up-and-coming" and expecting them to suddenly produce in a more competitive/larger scale conference is a little stupid.

Cal thinks they're hiring a sure fire guy in Cuonzo, but even after coming here he is 1/6 at making the NCAA tourney and 1/12 at winning conference or conference tourney. I'd rather hire a guy that's "cheap" and has at least won his conference, however small it is, 2 or 3 times, than someone who really has never actually done anything, just IMO
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Most of the "up and comer" candidates I have seen mentioned have won much more than they have lost. White, Tyndall, Mack, all seem to be mentioned a lot and all have won at a high %. White who is my pick IF Hart does not plan on offering Marshall 3 million or Smart 2.5 million has won or been tied for 1st in his conference the last 2 years.
 
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