Tweets from Forde/Goodman (SIAP)

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BigZiti09 said:
I'm saying there's too much misinformation to trust everything you hear in coaching searches.
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Well put. There's always an "ah ha" moment after every search when details come to light. I seriously doubt the ad is keeping media sources up to date with every detail. Would you really want a prospective coach to know he was the 6th person on the list?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
That's why I tried to tell people who were blowing off these national media people pointing and laughing at us, that you may not wanna do that.

Sure criticize Reggie Miller or Dana Oneil because they didn't watch all 100 games coached by Zo. However their voice is a lot louder than yours (not you specifically) and if they're trashing the program it's not good.
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And not only that...coaches and assistant coaches use these well-known media people for information. Seriously, Parrish talks about this all of the time. When a job opens up or when there are "rumors," coaches contact the media to see what they know about the job and whether or not speculation is true.

I can't say that all of them have great sources, but there is a core group of college basketball media members that can call a coach/assistant or even AD on a whim. Goodman, Parrish, Forde, and O'Neil are in that group. If the other person would agree to share information, they can get it. Gary Parrish and Steve Forbes know each other quite well, and Parrish would be the first to break it if Marshall ever decided to take the UT position.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
That's actually not what it said, but nice lie lol. They admitted they didn't know either way
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I read what it said. They don't think Martin was offered. Their take plus common sense tells you he didn't have an offer from the people that mattered.

Pretty obvious he didn't have that offer.
 
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Goodman tweeted earlier that Pitino Jr. was on the short list and now he is agreeing that he won't be the coach. He is obviously either conencted somehow to a source or just saying what fits in the moment....
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I read what it said. They don't think Martin was offered. Their take plus common sense tells you he didn't have an offer from the people that mattered.

Pretty obvious he didn't have that offer.
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If he had an offer, I would say he would have mentioned it today on radio as making a case for leaving for the right place, or even in his intro presser at Cal, something to the effect of "there were other opportunities, but this was right one".
 
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Forde is just a negative guy in general. Don't take it personally, he is always being critical of some program and very smirking while doing it.
 
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1985Vols said:
The joke is on all the delusional Vol fans that thought we were going to get rid of CCM and make a big name hire. That ended when Bruce Pearl went to Auburn. Dave Hart has Made a cluster of this since mid-season. Sure wish we had a decent AD, not to mention Chancellor. No wonder we are a national joke when it comes to athletics.
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I'm just glad you aren't making a premature analysis. Oh, wait...
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Forde is just a negative guy in general. Don't take it personally, he is always being critical of some program and very smirking while doing it.
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Would like to hear his thoughts on his alma mater. That place is a train wreck. He brings up UT's coaching changes, but unlike Mizzou, our coach actually got punished. Their cheater got off.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I'm not saying they're wrong about what they're saying, but the fact is they're saying it, and their voices are much louder than those saying UT did the right thing.
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I'd like to know exactly how Martin was so egregiously wronged by the UT brass.

What exactly did UT specifically do besides offer the guy a half million dollar raise and an extension?

Sure the fans did their petition. A hundred other schools have done online "fire coach X" sites before without the uproar.

He didn't like the buyout supposedly so he took his ball and went West and apparently blindsided Hart. He negotiated in bad faith, lied to his players, lied to his fans who did support him through thick and thin, and stole a recruit on the way out the door.

So forgive those of us here who don't buy into this national media frenzy on just how toxic this job is.

If anyone had the balls and the motivation to do so in the national media, they would bring this side of the equation up.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
I'm just glad you aren't making a premature analysis. Oh, wait...
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You're exactly right I am making a "premature" analysis. Based on the history of how we hire coaches, I bet I am right when it's all over. Come back and see me then. I will either be right or eat crow.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I read what it said. They don't think Martin was offered. Their take plus common sense tells you he didn't have an offer from the people that mattered.

Pretty obvious he didn't have that offer.
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Which is fine and has nothing to do with my original question, lol. Why did Marquette have to settle on Wojo?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Which is fine and has nothing to do with my original question, lol. Why did Marquette have to settle on Wojo?
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They didn't settle on him...They saw a bright young coach who has a good future ahead of him and decided to go that direction...Plus they got him at a good rate.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Because that's what they do. They hire assistant coaches. Their new president was infatuated with everything Duke.
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Lol oh ok, good one. Surely it had nothing to do with the dysfunctional AD that was widely publicized, why did Buzz leave for a worse job???
 
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Wut

Gary Parrish ‏@GaryParrishCBS 1m

Multiple sources have told @CBSSports that Missouri’s Frank Haith is now involved in Tulsa’s coaching search. Story coming …
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I know, not Tennessee related :peace2:
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Lol oh ok, good one. Surely it had nothing to do with the dysfunctional AD that was widely publicized, why did Buzz leave for a worse job???
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Fair point.

They have a history of hiring assistants.

I know you don't want to believe it but CCM either wasn't offered the job or saw that he was not going to be offered and pulled his name out.

You don't fly up there and interview just to pull out. CCM to Marquette would have made sense for him. Midwest ties and all. He wanted out of here and if offered by the people that count, he would have taken the job.
 
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UT has had the most success with coaches that had prior connections to the school.

So Byrd may not be a bad choice. I'm not sure if he is the best option but I won't be scared of his age. If he was successful we wouldn't have to worry about him leaving for another job because of his ties to UT and his age.

I would rather someone have a sound record than just hype of unproven potential. See Kiffin and Dooley
 
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golfballs said:
Wut



I know, not Tennessee related :peace2:
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Haha. Not a surprise. He needs to pull a Martin and reset his contract another 5 years. But that would be a terrible hire. If I were Tulsa, I would hire Tubby Smith. He gets more with less.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Haha. Not a surprise. He needs to pull a Martin and reset his contract another 5 years. But that would be a terrible hire. If I were Tulsa, I would hire Tubby Smith. He gets more with less.
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Missouri fans are praying this happens. If I were the AD at Mizzou I would pull a Hart and call his bluff. If he wants it let him have it.

According to Goodman, Melvin Menzies is next in line after Haith. I would hire Menzies in a heartbeat over Haith.

I don't think Tubby is leaving TT for Tulsa.
 
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