Jeff Goodman tweets UT has Pitinio Jr. on the short list

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VolArmy74 said:
I think Pitino Jr is a little young for here still, but he'll be very good somewhere eventually. The Pitino coaching tree is as good as it gets.

I still don't see why people lump Tyndall in with he and White, Tyndall has 9 years head coaching experience and has 200 career wins in those 9 seasons. That's an average of 22 wins per season and he took over an epic rebuilding project at Morehead.

I'd also be happy with Tubby Smith. He'd coach here 8-10 years, be a great ambassador for the University, and he'd win and make NCAA tournaments. The man is 525-244 in his career with a national title and he's taken 3 schools to the sweet 16 and made the round of 32 at Minnesota. Minnesota was awful when Tubby took over, they went from 8-22 to 20-13 his first season. Minnesota has only been to 8 NCAA tournaments that they didn't have to forfeit for NCAA violations in their entire history, Tubby has 4 of the 8.
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Tubby Smith. Really? SMH.

While we're interviewing UK rejects let's hit up Billy G.
 
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UTodd01 said:
Tubby Smith. Really? SMH.

While we're interviewing UK rejects let's hit up Billy G.
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Yes, because Tubby and Billy G are the exact same coach.

If you "SMH" at a coach with over 500 wins, 18 20 win seasons in 22 years, 17 NCAA appearances, 9 sweet 16's, 4 elite 8's and a national title as well as multiple SEC titles, what the heck would impress you?
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Yes, because Tubby and Billy G are the exact same coach.

If you "SMH" at a coach with over 500 wins, 18 20 win seasons in 22 years, 17 NCAA appearances, 9 sweet 16's, 4 elite 8's and a national title as well as multiple SEC titles, what the heck would impress you?
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He's been washed up for a decade if not longer.

Minnesota was a good last gasp, however.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Unless you liked winning 22-25 games and going to the NCAAs pretty much every year.
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He's a great coach. To be honest, I'm stunned he would want this job. To the point that I actually believe those on TOS have been misled. JMO
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Unless you liked winning 22-25 games and going to the NCAAs pretty much every year.
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Yeah he did a great job at Texas Tech this year. And if he was so great at Minnesota, why did they fire him for a guy who had coached 1 year at FIU?
 
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GOATeric14berry said:
I'll play devils advocate . Same reason we think he is a good hire...last name
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No because Pitino Jr. can coach. Has nothing to do with his last name as far as I'm concerned. It doesn't matter though he's not leaving Minnesota after only one year like he did FIU.
 
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UTodd01 said:
He's been washed up for a decade if not longer.

Minnesota was a good last gasp, however.
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His last 10 years has produced 8 20-28 win seasons, 7 NCAA tournaments, an elite 8, 3 second rounds, and a third round.

His washed up decade is our best decade ever. If you go back to the "more" side of the decade you start running into 16-0 SEC records and such.

As for his Texas Tech year last year, they were 3-15 in the Big 12 the year before he arrived and went 6-12 this year. If he stays, I'll wager they win 20 games next season.

We'd be damn lucky if he wants to coach here.
 
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Tubby Smith doesn't want this job. People, pleeeeeeeease!

Tubby Smith is in his first year at Tech and he was brought to that dumpster fire to restore some stability. For as bad as it's been at Tennessee, Texas Tech Basketball has gone from Bobby Knight, to Pat Knight, to Billy Gillespie, to Chris Walker, to Tubby Smith in seven years, four of them in the last four years.

Smith just inked the best signing class Tech has signed since 2004, which coincides with the best year of Bobby Knight's tenure in 2005.

Tubby Smith signs best recruiting class since 2004 | Lubbock Online | Lubbock Avalanche-Journal

C'mooooooon MAN!
 
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VolArmy74 said:
His last 10 years has produced 8 20-28 win seasons, 7 NCAA tournaments, an elite 8, 3 second rounds, and a third round.

His washed up decade is our best decade ever. If you go back to the "more" side of the decade you start running into 16-0 SEC records and such.

As for his Texas Tech year last year, they were 3-15 in the Big 12 the year before he arrived and went 6-12 this year. If he stays, I'll wager they win 20 games next season.

We'd be damn lucky if he wants to coach here.
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Still didn't answer why if he was so great at Minnesota that they dumped him for someone so green. Plus it's not like any big program apparently wanted him.

Only a minority of fans would like the hire and you know it.
 
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UTodd01 said:
Howland is damaged goods. Look past the numbers on this one people.
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Is he more damaged goods than Bruce Pearl? Kelvin Samson? Bobby Petrino?

I'm not advocating for him, but when I keep seeing names that don't have resumes better than the new coach at Cal...I get curious.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Still didn't answer why if he was so great at Minnesota that they dumped him for someone so green. Plus it's not like any big program apparently wanted him.

Only a minority of fans would like the hire and you know it.
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Idiocy in Minnesota? He's their most successful coach ever basically. Minnesota hadn't won a game in the NCAAs since 1990* (massive cheating scandal in the mid-90s wiped their NCAA record out) before Smith.

He's the only coach to ever win 20+ games back to back there.

He took them from bottom dweller, 3 wins in the Big 10, 8 wins total to winning 20 his first year. He capped that off by signing 3 4* top 100 players, one of whom was a top 50 player. That made for the #27 rated class, the next year he signed the #16 rated class in the country there.

I honestly haven't a clue why they fired him. I guess they got starry-eyed over Pitino junior and dumped the coach that had taken them to 1/2 of their NCAA appearances their 120 year history.

You ask why he got fired, I say look at the fact that it took him all of a week to find a new job.

He's one of a very small group of coaches that have taken 4 schools to the tourney. A smaller group has taken 4 and advanced with all 4.
 
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vol66 said:
Is he more damaged goods than Bruce Pearl? Kelvin Samson? Bobby Petrino?

I'm not advocating for him, but when I keep seeing names that don't have resumes better than the new coach at Cal...I get curious.
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Pearl was OUR damaged goods, big difference there.

As for Sampson - he's currently at Houston. Enough said there. Petrino had to battle back to the Big East.

Howland? Playing golf.

I think most of the names being mentioned have similar or better resumes than Martin's. Not to mention youth and that excitement factor. Not sure what you're getting at there.
 
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UTodd01 said:
Pearl was OUR damaged goods, big difference there.

As for Sampson - he's currently at Houston. Enough said there. Petrino had to battle back to the Big East.

Howland? Playing golf.

I think most of the names being mentioned have similar or better resumes than Martin's. Not to mention youth and that excitement factor. Not sure what you're getting at there.
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When Hamilton hired Pearl, no one else wanted him. Ernie Grunfeld helped with that one.

Pearl was at Milwaukee -Wisconsin.

Pitino Jr., White, Tyndall...

How are those guys any better than Martin? Maybe they will be, but it's not a certainty. Far from it, actually.

If the expectation is someone will go to the tourney most every year like Pearl did, don't we want to hire a guy with that kind of record?

If Marshall and Smart aren't in the mix, Howland is all that's left of the "proven guys" and I'd add, he's the only one with a better resume than Pearl...which, for better or worse is the metric THIS fan base uses for comparison.
 
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vol66 said:
When Hamilton hired Pearl, no one else wanted him. Ernie Grunfeld helped with that one.

Pearl was at Milwaukee -Wisconsin.

Pitino Jr., White, Tyndall...

How are those guys any better than Martin? Maybe they will be, but it's not a certainty. Far from it, actually.

If the expectation is someone will go to the tourney most every year like Pearl did, don't we want to hire a guy with that kind of record?

If Marshall and Smart aren't in the mix, Howland is all that's left of the "proven guys" and I'd add, he's the only one with a better resume than Pearl...which, for better or worse is the metric THIS fan base uses for comparison.
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Tyndall is a more proven coach than Martin, White or Pitino Jr. He'll land at some major school soon and be a home run for them.
 
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