Kingsley Okoroh

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BadJerry20 said:
Actually I don't, cause idgaf he's gone. He deserved the criticism he received when he was underachieving, if he's that mentally weak that a petition hurt his feelings he needs to toughen up. Tougher breed remember?
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dont know how this guy plans on coaching at a high major yet cant deal with fans.
 
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whocaresgobobcats said:
dont know how this guy plans on coaching at a high major yet cant deal with fans.
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It's not like the criticism was unwarranted either, we were underachieving. For a guy preaching a tougher breed, he seems to be a little thin skinned. Best of luck to him, but i really don't care that he is gone. On to the next one...
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Yup, Zo's such a dick for doing what's best for his family in his mind.
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No, but he is a dick for getting this kid to commit to UT, then taking him to Cal. He recruited this kid on UT's dime, took his commitment, and then a day later he decides he's going to Cal and taking Okoroh with him? That's a dick move. Argue Martin was treated badly all you want, but you can't deny this is a dick move. Seriously, something like this isn't something the NCAA should allow. UT ended up paying Martin to recruit this kid to Cal. Honestly, at the very least, some kind of financial penalty should be incurred by Cal on top of the buyout they have to pay for Martin. Total dick move.
 
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Weezer said:
No, but he is a dick for getting this kid to commit to UT, then taking him to Cal. He recruited this kid on UT's dime, took his commitment, and then a day later he decides he's going to Cal and taking Okoroh with him? That's a dick move. Argue Martin was treated badly all you want, but you can't deny this is a dick move. Seriously, something like this isn't something the NCAA should allow. UT ended up paying Martin to recruit this kid to Cal. Honestly, at the very least, some kind of financial penalty should be incurred by Cal on top of the buyout they have to pay for Martin. Total dick move.
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Think Butch Jones is a dick too?
 
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BadJerry20 said:
It's not like the criticism was unwarranted either, we were underachieving. For a guy preaching a tougher breed, he seems to be a little thin skinned. Best of luck to him, but i really don't care that he is gone. On to the next one...
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Every college coach should expect criticism. It comes with the job. I still think the BBB petition was ridiculous though, and if the reports about his wife receiving harassing phone calls is true, then some asshats need to be beaten down. Don't fawk with a man's family. What I find asinine is that our entire fanbase is being characterized by the actions of what I believe to be the minority. Tennessee has more than 36,000 fans. Hell, that's only about a third of the capacity of Neyland Stadium.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Obviously the comparison flew over huge head.
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No. You just can't compare Butch Jones and Cuonzo Martin because they coach 2 different sports. Butch Jones has nothing to do with Okoroh leaving Tenneseee to go to California. He doesn't even have nothing to do with this whole situation that we're in so why bring him into this?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Think Butch Jones is a dick too?
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Did he recruit someone on Cincy's dime and then not even take the time to re-recruit them to UT? If so, then it was a dick move. Okoroh didn't re-open his recruitment and look around at other options. He just said "now I'm a bear".
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Obviously the comparison flew over huge head.
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Obviously your head is so far up Martin's ass that you can't recognize a dick move as a dick move. It's one thing to argue how he was treated, it's another to make excuses for his actions.
 
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Weezer said:
Every college coach should expect criticism. It comes with the job. I still think the BBB petition was ridiculous though, and if the reports about his wife receiving harassing phone calls is true, then some asshats need to be beaten down. Don't fawk with a man's family. What I find asinine is that our entire fanbase is being characterized by the actions of what I believe to be the minority. Tennessee has more than 36,000 fans. Hell, that's only about a third of the capacity of Neyland Stadium.
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I agree wife the family part, thats a line that just doesn't get crossed...ever.

The petition was ridiculous, and i never signed it. But seriously sh*t happens, as you said it was a small portion of the fanbase. Fans still supported him by showing up to games, him choosing to focus on the negative minority tells me enough.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Obviously Cal had an offer as he's now a bear
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That's actually part of my point. Cuonzo must of told him that he is considering Cal, but he would be able "follow" if that happened.

MJ Rhett was probably told the same deal, but MJ Rhett had better options/schools to check out.
 
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Weezer said:
Obviously your head is so far up Martin's ass that you can't recognize a dick move as a dick move. It's one thing to argue how he was treated, it's another to make excuses for his actions.
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You're wasting your time. He acts toward Zo how some act toward Pearl. He does no wrong
 
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Butch Jones took kids from Cincy and brought them here, guess he's an ******* too. Of course I'm sure excuses will be made to defend what he did.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Butch Jones took kids from Cincy and brought them here, guess he's an ******* too. Of course I'm sure excuses will be made to defend what he did.
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I wasn't aware of this. Who did Butch bring to Tennessee that was committed to Cincy at the time he was named coach at UT?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
AJ Branisel

Recruited on Cincys dime and brought with Jones to Tennessee.
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First, not that it matters, but you said "kids" in a previous post, plural, meaning more than one. So were there more or did you use the plural because it suited your agenda better?

Second, did Branisel immediately de-commit from Cincy/commit to UT when Butch was hired? I don't remember that, but if so, then I'll stick by what I said previously and call a dick move a dick move. For some reason, I thought Branisel de-committed from Cincy and re-opened his recruiting, but hell, I'm old and my memory isn't what it used to be.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
AJ Branisel

Recruited on Cincys dime and brought with Jones to Tennessee.
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Didn't realize that. Did a little research, and found some dissimilarities in the two situations. Nearly a month passed between AJB's decommitment from Cincy and his commitment to Tennessee. Coach Jones wasn't interviewing with Tennessee the day he committed either. AJB had been comitted to Cincy for 8 months, and chose to follow Jones to Tennessee. So, I see some differences in the two situations.

I don't mind KO going to Cal over Tennessee, and I don't mind Martin taking his commitment to Cal. My problem is allowing him to commit to TN knowing full well that he was interviewing with Cal with one foot out the door at TN. He should have held him off from going public with his commitment.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Didn't realize that. Did a little research, and found some dissimilarities in the two situations. Nearly a month passed between AJB's decommitment from Cincy and his commitment to Tennessee. Coach Jones wasn't interviewing with Tennessee the day he committed either. AJB had been comitted to Cincy for 8 months, and chose to follow Jones to Tennessee. So, I see some differences in the two situations.

I don't mind KO going to Cal over Tennessee, and I don't mind Martin taking his commitment to Cal. My problem is allowing him to commit to TN knowing full well that he was interviewing with Cal with one foot out the door at TN. He should have held him off from going public with his commitment.
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Was just pointing it out, as people were simply saying how wrong it was to take a player you recruited on another schools dime with you. Nobody was criticizing Butch for that move, but of course not. If Tennessee were to hire say Marshall, they'd probably hope he brings a few kids too lol.

Like I've said, I don't know that Martin was on Cal's campus at 10:30 Monday morning when Okoroh went public.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Like I've said, I don't know that Martin was on Cal's campus at 10:30 Monday morning when Okoroh went public.
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He might not have been, but I don't think he was as committed to TN as he portrayed. It didn't take him long to accept their offer, whenever that took place. He didn't even come home to discuss it, so I doubt the Cal offer took him completely by surprise.

It's over. I'm done with it.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Was just pointing it out, as people were simply saying how wrong it was to take a player you recruited on another schools dime with you. Nobody was criticizing Butch for that move, but of course not. If Tennessee were to hire say Marshall, they'd probably hope he brings a few kids too lol.

Like I've said, I don't know that Martin was on Cal's campus at 10:30 Monday morning when Okoroh went public.
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Martin's true colors are clear now because it is evident he is a conspirer and liar. Glad he's gone.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Was just pointing it out, as people were simply saying how wrong it was to take a player you recruited on another schools dime with you. Nobody was criticizing Butch for that move, but of course not. If Tennessee were to hire say Marshall, they'd probably hope he brings a few kids too lol.

Like I've said, I don't know that Martin was on Cal's campus at 10:30 Monday morning when Okoroh went public.
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Jerry was right. You're as much a Martin apologist as some on here are Pearl apologists. What's sad is your inability to recognize it.
 
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