Recruiting Forum: Football Talk XI

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PassedOutAwake said:
My point wasnt about who did what. My point was to point out the 25/20 ratio is better than last years QB play.

Would you rather have 25 TDs and 20 INTs or have last years numbers (12/16)?

... no matter who it is
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I was looking back at QB's in the SEC over recent history and some of the "best" average right about 1 INT per game over their careers. There are exceptions. Connor Shaw only threw 1 INT last year and that happened to be in our game. (Way to go Cam!). In his SO year, Bo Wallace had 22 TD and 17 INTs so those numbers you suggest wouldn't be shocking. Of course I'd take the 25/20 and throw my visor on the ground after each of the 20 INT's.

For what it's worth, I think I would expect improved numbers from Worley, Dobbs, and Peterman this year for a number of reasons. Many of us are optimistic about Riley but we won't know until we see him in a game or a few. I remember the accolades that Dobbs got from his second half against Bama.

If today's practice reports are any indication of what our QBs can expect in regards to pass protection we might ought to be choosing a signal caller based on physical toughness. :) I think that would be Peterman, right?
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Wisconsin is getting away with murder against Kentucky. I hope Kentucky wins since the refs are shady in this one.
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I only saw the first quarter, but it was the exact opposite. Every brush against a UK player was called, UK was mauling them and no whistles. It was like 7 fouls to 1 at the 10 minute mark.
 
#6,705
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One more point. The INT numbers from last year are a tad high but what is really missing is (and this is probably more to your point) is the TD #'s. That, I don't think can be solely attributed to the QB's. Some of it yeah, but our receiving corp were rookies for most part and we really were weak at TE.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I was looking back at QB's in the SEC over recent history and some of the "best" average right about 1 INT per game over their careers. There are exceptions. Connor Shaw only threw 1 INT last year and that happened to be in our game. (Way to go Cam!). In his SO year, Bo Wallace had 22 TD and 17 INTs so those numbers you suggest wouldn't be shocking. Of course I'd take the 25/20 and throw my visor on the ground after each of the 20 INT's.

For what it's worth, I think I would expect improved numbers from Worley, Dobbs, and Peterman this year for a number of reasons. Many of us are optimistic about Riley but we won't know until we see him in a game or a few. I remember the accolades that Dobbs got from his second half against Bama.

If today's practice reports are any indication of what our QBs can expect in regards to pass protection we might ought to be choosing a signal caller based on physical toughness. :) I think that would be Peterman, right?
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Thanks for understanding what I was trying to get across. As long as our QB situation is improved, Ill be happier.... but of course I want it to be way better. Any improvement is good though. I keep seeing people say we have a brutal schedule again... but when do we not have a brutal schedule? Most teams are losing their QBs. UF is coming off of a horrid season, new coaching staff and have a harder schedule than us. Vandy should take a huge step back. Ole Miss is easier than Auburn. I think the easier schedule will help our QBs put up better numbers.
 
#6,710
#6,710
Man, UK is gonna win another natty. Can we please do something...anything...in any sport in the next decade?
 
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#6,711
PassedOutAwake said:
Thanks for understanding what I was trying to get across. As long as our QB situation is improved, Ill be happier.... but of course I want it to be way better. Any improvement is good though. I keep seeing people say we have a brutal schedule again... but when do we not have a brutal schedule? Most teams are losing their QBs. UF is coming off of a horrid season, new coaching staff and have a harder schedule than us. Vandy should take a huge step back. Ole Miss is easier than Auburn. I think the easier schedule will help our QBs put up better numbers.
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Honestly, I really think at this point (premature) if we go with Worley we're shooting to get to 6 wins and a bowl game. It may not work but that's what I think the thinking would be. If we go with Riley, I think we're trying to get to 8 wins. It may not work but that's what I think the thinking would be. There is arguably more reward potential with Riley.......and probably, at this point, more risk. jmo.
 
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#6,712
Who in the heck would have thought a 7&8 seed would be playing for a natty? Crazy.
 
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Aesius said:
Man, UK is gonna win another natty. Can we please do something...anything...in any sport in the next decade?
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Baseball Vols just had an awesome win over #4 Vandy. Win tomorrow and they take the series. (They've really needed this...)
 
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I really do think Ferguson wins the QB battle in the fall. I think he's close right now. Just needs to cut down on the mental errors.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
I'm a Packer fan and I hated Favre....... He blew more big games than people want to admit.....
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He still won more SB than the team that traded him early in his career which I am a Falcon fan. Main point I was trying to make was he is much different than Bray in a lot of ways outside the gunslinger mentality which make him have a chance to do better and improve on his game as well.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Honestly, I really think at this point (premature) if we go with Worley we're shooting to get to 6 wins and a bowl game. It may not work but that's what I think the thinking would be. If we go with Riley, I think we're trying to get to 8 wins. It may not work but that's what I think the thinking would be. There is arguably more reward potential with Riley.......and probably, at this point, more risk. jmo.
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I think Worley wouldve won 6-7 last year (reg season) if he started every game and stayed healthy. From the reports, it seems as though he has improved since last year... and itll be an easier schedule (IMO) this year. Plus he has more weapons.

EDIT: I also think we see a lot more screens this year because of the Oline problems. Also think the TEs and RBs will stay back and block in a lot of situations.
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
I think Worley wouldve won 6-7 last year (reg season) if he started every game and stayed healthy. From the reports, it seems as though he has improved since last year... and itll be an easier schedule (IMO) this year. Plus he has more weapons.
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I think his biggest edge now is confidence. He's a senior and while he may not have the skill sets of some of his competitors I think he's comfortable just doing his job within his abilities.

Butch has been harping on cutting down on mistakes and being able to make plays. I think the first could be directed at Riley while the latter cold be directed at Worley. The challenge this year is the QB is probably going to have to create. How many reports today had the phrase, "Every QB spent the day running for their lives."
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
I think Worley wouldve won 6-7 last year (reg season) if he started every game and stayed healthy. From the reports, it seems as though he has improved since last year... and itll be an easier schedule (IMO) this year. Plus he has more weapons.

EDIT: I also think we see a lot more screens this year because of the Oline problems. Also think the TEs and RBs will stay back and block in a lot of situations.
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I was thinking Wolf at TE and Croom opposite in the slot. :)
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I think his biggest edge now is confidence. He's a senior and while he may not have the skill sets of some of his competitors I think he's comfortable just doing his job within his abilities.

Butch has been harping on cutting down on mistakes and being able to make plays. I think the first could be directed at Riley while the latter cold be directed at Worley. The challenge this year is the QB is probably going to have to create. How many reports today had the phrase, "Every QB spent the day running for their lives."
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Good point. I still think Worley starts until they get Fergy some game experience (large lead or large deficit). Then after he gets some gametime, maybe let him start a game and see how it works out
 
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JacketVol said:
He still won more SB than the team that traded him early in the year of which I am a fan. Main point I was trying to make was he is much different than Bray in a lot of ways outside the gunslinger mentality which make him have a chance to do better and improve on his game as well.
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The more I read about Riley, the more I feel the Favre/Stafford type of player is accurate. He's dripping with so much confidence and arrogance, he thinks he can get the ball anywhere. As a Packer fan, I know full well Favre cost several games...and he also won a few too. I'm willing to live with the occasional bone-headed throws if it means we also can knock off a giant or two in the mean time.





Side note: I don't care what labels are on our jerseys, but I can't wait to get rid of those horrible-looking, tiger-striped, convoluted Adidas practice jerseys. Ugliest things in orange I can remember.
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
Ahhh yes.....take a game that he started and won out of the equation....he doesnt deserve credit for that win.....give me a break
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We could've played pig at QB and still beat AP by 30. They're terrible even by FCS standards.

I was just pointing out that 3 tds against a piss poor opponent skews his stats.
 
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