I think it's a fair question

#29
#29
volfanjustin said:
Don't put your big guy in that position, let him do what he does which is get offensive rebounds
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Don't put your big man in a situation to get doubled and pass to the open man? Especially when said big man is one of the better passers out of the double and was guaranteed to get doubled there?

You take a greater risk of a charge by throwing it in to a guard and trying to dribble drive. The charge they called is not a charge 99 pct of the time
 
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newokie03 said:
Your knowledge of basketball can be held in a thimble. Please stop posting you are embarrasing yourself. We get it, you don't like Coach Martin, but hopefully he will be back with a large raise and multi year extension and you will have a few more years to gripe and show your ignorance. SMDH
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I am not the one who gave my power forward the ball in the corner 18 feet from the goal. They didn't even get a shot off, give the ball to a slasher and let him drive the d will panic and collapse down on him then he can dish it off or let Stokes get the off rebound, put back win. Martin in an idiot, pathetic excuse for a coach dear god they better not give him an extension.
 
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UT's#1Fan said:
Worked out well...
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No - there are no guarantees anything any coach calls will work out well - but it was the right call to put the ball in Stokes' hands in that situation - statistically you prefer that Stokes drives and either scores or gets fouled rather than trying to force the ball into McRae who would end up having to shoot some extremely difficult shot while triple teamed.
 
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UT's#1Fan said:
Where was Stokes in that play? ON THE LOW BLOCK. Not a foot inside the arc on the sideline.

Two completely different scenarios. but you know that.

Bad play call.
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Uhm this was the question you asked?

to ask if Cuonzo Martin can write up a must have set play. Based on the many opportunities he's had to date, including T/O's called at the end of a half, the answer is no.
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So obviously Martin CAN write up a set play.
 
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Stokes even stood there waiting on the double. He knew it was coming, took a step and a half and the defender flops.
 
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#35
Play call was fine. Stokes earned the ability to try and make the basket or the pass, depending on what UM gave them. If he splits that double, he's got a layup. Refs decided to take the game into their own hands, and make it about them and not the players. Sucks for every D1 b-ball player out there when that happens. Lots of chicken shat calls tonight.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I am not the one who gave my power forward the ball in the corner 18 feet from the goal. They didn't even get a shot off, give the ball to a slasher and let him drive the d will panic and collapse down on him then he can dish it off or let Stokes get the off rebound, put back win. Martin in an idiot, pathetic excuse for a coach dear god they better not give him an extension.
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How many charges you see on a dribble drive and dish?

Here's a hint...A lot
 
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UTFanForLife said:
Don't put your big man in a situation to get doubled and pass to the open man? Especially when said big man is one of the better passers out of the double and was guaranteed to get doubled there?

You take a greater risk of a charge by throwing it in to a guard and trying to dribble drive. The charge they called is not a charge 99 pct of the time
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So with 9 seconds you want Stokes 18 feet from the goal instead of Richardson or McRae?
 
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UT's#1Fan said:
exactly... but Stokes didn't even look at McRae. He was given the green light and took it.

bad play call.

Now if he passes it, great call, brilliant call. But that wasn't the plan. Cuonzo called a 1 dimensional play and we didn't even get a shot up.

I feel for the kids.
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check the replay. His eyes are on McRae when the guard reaches in to rip the ball.
 
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#42
You get the ball to your big man and let him draw the foul. Was a bs call and should have been a no call. Be proud of CCM and our team. They both did a hell of a job!
 
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volfanjustin said:
So with 9 seconds you want Stokes 18 feet from the goal instead of Richardson or McRae?
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Toss to Stokes in corner, gets doubled, man cuts, Stokes dumps him the ball, someone else has to help or we have a lay up.

It's a pretty good play call since Michigan was betting on McRae getting the inbounds.
 
#44
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volfanjustin said:
Again McRae or Richardson driving to goal makes me more excited than stokes driving the ball
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Stokes wasn't gonna drive or shoot that ball unless it was wide open. Sooner you realize that the better. He splits that double it's a lay up, otherwise he was passing to McRae at the top of the key.
 
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TGVol said:
You clearly don't have a clue about basketball. That was a play that 9 out of 10 times gets you 2 ft's to win the game - most of the time refs will give that advantage to the star offensive player and the way Stokes has been shooting them in the tournament it was a logical play to call. McRae was hot in the second half - Michigan knew that so it was to be expected he would be double teamed during that last play.
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If you are calling a play to get a foul, not a basket, and relying on the refs to win you the game, you are setting yourself up to fail.

McRae and Richardson got us back in the game. Get one of them the ball moving towards the basket. The play call is a much bigger issue in my mind than the foul. Putting Stokes in that spot after he'd been shut down most of the game is a low percentage play.

As for the foul call, I would say the Michigan player flopped. However he was set so it wasn't a block, IMO. Close call so I'm not really overly concerned with that.
 
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UTFanForLife said:
Stokes wasn't gonna drive or shoot that ball unless it was wide open. Sooner you realize that the better. He splits that double it's a lay up, otherwise he was passing to McRae at the top of the key.
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Somebody who actually watched the game without the CCM hater glasses on!!!!!!!!!
 
#47
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UTFanForLife said:
Stokes wasn't gonna drive or shoot that ball unless it was wide open. Sooner you realize that the better. He splits that double it's a lay up, otherwise he was passing to McRae at the top of the key.
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So we want McRae shooting a likely contested 3 rather than driving to the basket after coming off a screen?
 
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UTFanForLife said:
Toss to Stokes in corner, gets doubled, man cuts, Stokes dumps him the ball, someone else has to help or we have a lay up.

It's a pretty good play call since Michigan was betting on McRae getting the inbounds.
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Read your post out loud and tell me if you really believe that sounds like a good play call, I hope you say no
 
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#49
Watch the replay. McRae's man was the one who helped down. Stokes is looking right at him. Brilliant play call. That's a wide open free throw line jumper or even drive to basket if no help came.
 
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volfanjustin said:
So with 9 seconds you want Stokes 18 feet from the goal instead of Richardson or McRae?
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Yes if he is guarded by Michigan center who is not expected to be able to move his feet to stay with Stokes facing him that far from the rim - most likely scenario is you get 2 ft's in that situation to win the game. The problem is that the ref did not do what most refs do in this situation - give benefit of the doubt to the offensive (star) player.
 
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